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on โ25-12-2013 12:35 PM - last edited on โ25-12-2013 06:59 PM by bella*maria14
I've never been in a situation like this before and was wondering if someone could help me. I am being sent abusive emails by a possibly mentally unstable buyer. On 3rd Dec I sold a pair of tights which the buyer requested to pick up instead of post. I said no problem but the buyer was unable to meet me at my work as planned so asked if she could pick up the following weekend. Again I agreed but she changed her mind later and asked if I would post the tights in an A4 envelope for $1.80 instead. I agreed to this on 13 Dec.
Besides the fact that the buyer's emails are nasty and a complete overreaction, I'm concerned that she'll be able to lodge a paypal dispute as I have no proof of postage due to posting the item as a letter as she requested. I was wondering if anyone knew whether Paypal would look at our email history and see that the buyer specifically requested postage with no tracking and agreed to not hold me liable for any damage (and as implied, disappearance) of the parcel?
It's also Christmas and the parcel may take more than a week to arrive due to the 3 public holidays but I doubt the buyer will factor this into her thoughts.
I've also resigned myself to the fact that she will leave negative feedback and am frustrated there is nothing I can do to warn other sellers about her unreasonable expectations. After viewing the feedback she's left previous sellers I really wish there was a way to leave negative feedback for buyers so other sellers can be warned of abusive horrible people to deal with such as this person.
I'm at a loss as to what to do and have unfortunately had my Christmas break ruined by this experience in addition to the problems I was having dealing with a family death.
Any advice would be really appreciated ๐
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on โ25-12-2013 12:51 PM
You can block this person's communications - go to the site map at the bottom of the page and under seller stuff there's a block for bidding and communications, put those in place first.
Don't do anything else. If she lodges an "Item not received" case or whatever, phone eBay (not email or live chat), they can see all of your eBay communications and can remove bad feedback if necessary. Under the "resolve a problem/contact eBay" tab there are a series of tabs that eventually lead you to a phone number and give you a once-only code to use to talk to a human being about the issue.
Don't respond to any more of her communications - I have been through this sort of rubbish with difficult buyers, and if your communications have been via eBay's message system, they can see them and usually support you and remove any negative feedback. If they don't, calmly ask to speak to a supervisor.
Good luck,
Marina.
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on โ25-12-2013 12:56 PM
@alive_girl wrote:
Besides the fact that the buyer's emails are nasty and a complete overreaction, I'm concerned that she'll be able to lodge a paypal dispute as I have no proof of postage due to posting the item as a letter as she requested. I was wondering if anyone knew whether Paypal would look at our email history and see that the buyer specifically requested postage with no tracking and agreed to not hold me liable for any damage (and as implied, disappearance) of the parcel?
I agree that the buyer is being completely unreasonable if all transpired as above (make sure to put them on your BBL if you haven't done so already), but PayPal will not take the message exchange into account if a case is filed. The only thing that helps in an INR case is proof of postage (possibly messages and feedback can be entered into evidence if the buyer confirms they received them and/or in good condition, though).
You have explained in as much as you could to the buyer, who seems unwilling to accept their responsibility in the extended delay to receiving their item, so to be honest I would cease communication, put all blocks that I could in place, report any messages that were abusive, and if/when the neg comes, take a moment before responding to it with nothing other than objective facts telling your side of the story.
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on โ26-12-2013 09:46 AM
My only consolation is to think that a person must be quite unhappy in themselves to be so angry towards others, in which case I feel sorry for her.
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on โ27-12-2013 01:56 PM
Just a couple of things that may help (and only my opinion--other sellers would have other ways of dealing with this). When someone requests pick-up for something that can be easily and inexpensively posted, add them to your block list before they have the chance to buy. These buyers have always been the ones that have kept me waiting at the location and have wasted oodles my time in messaging, all over $4.55 postage (this was before I had 'Free' post). Once, a buyer wanted to drive to my house in the Blue Mountains from Western Sydney. I pointed out that the return trip would cost more than $4.55 in petrol, but they STILL insisted. I blocked them from purchase--it's just not worth the hassles when a buyer is disrespectfully pushing their point and demanding to come to your house/workplace.
If she had already bought, then requested pick-up, you probably wanted to be accommodating to the buyer even though it was an unrealistic request on her behalf (it's an example of how the eBay feedback system inadvertantly extorts 'bend over backwards' behaviour from sellers). When she requested posting the item, you could have paid for a registered post label out of your own pocket (so you had proof of post), and cut your losses on this one (to save yourself further worry).
If you ever get any inkling at all that a buyer will be difficult from an initial message, block them before replying politely to their message:
1) Demanding, strange, overy picky or rude enquiry
2) Add buyer to blocked bidders list
3) Very polite response which puts them off from buying the item
It is worthwhile responding to their enquiry because, from experience, they will just keep pestering you anyway! When eBay once explained to me that I can add 5000 IDs to the BBL, I thought it was ludicrous. Who would want to block so many potential customers? The fact is that some customers are more trouble and stress than the money is worth...I have learned the hard way.
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on โ27-12-2013 02:06 PM
Just wanted to say that you probably should have checked her feedback left for others BEFORE you agreed to let her come and pick up her item. I have been selling on Ebay since the beginning and I have always said no to pick ups for anything or any reason. That is until now because I have a B&M shop as well. Remember that the item is YOURS and it is up to YOU what the terms of sale are. Never let a buyer push you around.
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on โ27-12-2013 02:08 PM
Don't know why my ID on here shows as registered 2005, weird, it shows as 2001 on my feedback which is right. Back then things were so simple on here and I didn't even go on these chat boards, didn't need to. Now I'd be lost without them.
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on โ27-12-2013 02:15 PM
The 2005 date is when you registered for posting on these boards. 2001-2005, no need to post! Things must have been peachy keen. What has changed? I'd be interested to know ๐
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on โ27-12-2013 02:44 PM
@green-gifts-mkd wrote:The 2005 date is when you registered for posting on these boards. 2001-2005, no need to post! Things must have been peachy keen. What has changed? I'd be interested to know ๐
OMG are you kidding, umm where do I start? Well, there was no Best Match. Listings simply came up in time order, ending soonest first. All you had to do to get your store noticed was to have an auction or listing ending every day. There was much much much less competition. You could easily have a monopoly on a product.
There were no Chinese sellers on Ebay Australia. There were no international sellers coming up unless you specifically searched for them.
You could pay for a 'featured listing' that would sit at the top of a category for it's duration which was great value advertising for the price. You could create a listing where no-one could bid on it unless you put them on a list (can't remember what they were called). So if you were auctioning something special you didn't get stupid bids. Buyers had to contact you and ask to bid first.
You could leave negative feedback for a buyer (but in saying that, if you did leave it for a buyer they almost always retaliated and left you a neg too).
You did not have to use Paypal.
Probably lots more as well.
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on โ27-12-2013 02:58 PM
Also people were much less demanding. No one expected their parcel the next day. If something went wrong they understood. Online shopping had not really been invented at that time. Ebay was really the first online shopping site in Australia and it was new and exciting.
There was no broadband so you had to dial in every time you went on the internet/Ebay. It was so slow and you didn't waste time on there because the internet was expensive.
I didn't have a digital camera as they were really expensive. I had to take my photos, put them in to get developed and then scan the photos into the computer. If I was selling a book at least I could just scan it in. I still have my Canon digital camera I bought for Ebay ten years ago. It cost me $1,000 and it has certainly been worth it. It is still going strong today.

