Help confirming this is a scammer.

nosif666
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hi everyone I need some advice. 

I put this item up for sale yesterday evening and two people offered to buy it from me at a certain price yet when I try to communicate with the individual they also wanted to pay for a apple gift card valued at $300 which they would pay me on top of the $250 for the item I am selling. 

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Yes, it was removed as it was a screenshot that showed the member's email address

 

Email to say the 'item had sold' was from some garbled Gmail address

 

And addressed the OP as something like 'Dear successful seller' 

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No wonder as started to think I must be missing something and did see it was edited but did not look like something too drastic was done. 

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Now I feel like a kid who missed out on an ice cream but at least I know why. 

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@brickworksmarket wrote:

Now I feel like a kid who missed out on an ice cream but at least I know why. 


But even a kid with an icecream presented with evidence that they were willing to pay for the item, plus an additional amount somehow involving an apple $300 gift card would quickly have their alarm bells ringing, even without the words escrow and gmail in the mix.

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I’ll clarify that the word “escrow” wasn’t mentioned in the screenshot, but the concept was. The email from “eBay” (obviously fake, not only because of the disguised origin that faked the actual email address, but also the language and content) addressed the seller as “esteemed seller”, included something along the lines of “good news! The buyer has paid” blah blah “payment will be held and won’t appear in your payment summary until you send us a photo of the gift card and the receipt” and then reiterated in bold “we will give you your payment only when you send the photos by replying to this email … we know your time is valuable so send us the photos as quickly as possible”. I’m paraphrasing from memory.

 

This clearly isn’t the sort of hold made by eBay. It’s the old “payment held in escrow” trick - a classic scam.

 

The screenshot also included text messages between the “buyer” and the OP. The “buyer’s” text messages basically said the same thing - PayPal will give the money when the seller emails the gift card info / photo and receipt.

 

The scammers cover the fact that the seller won’t see any record of a sale in their eBay summary by saying this information will only be provided by eBay once they’ve received that email. A moment’s clear thought exposes the ridiculousness of this, but scammers have their script all ready to pressure victims into accepting their scenario. Psychologically it works more often than one would think.

 

 

This is a multi-pronged scam.

 

• the eBay item (pressure seller into sending even though not a cent has been paid, but fake payment email sent to seller);

 

• the funds on the gift card (siphon out as soon as the code is known, with the receipt info proving the gift card was purchased by the seller who believes “buyer” has paid for this)

 

• seller’s email address and name and phone number known - all information is useful for scammers (identity theft, future scams, mobile phone number porting, sell name and email address on the dark web)

 

• any other information which the scammer can winkle out of the seller.

 

Seller will be on a list of potential victims for future exploitations, including what triggers might make him suspicious do as to work around them or avoid them in future attempts.

 

 

 

Hence why I say “say nothing” and “neither confirm nor deny anything”. Even a refutation gives information.

 

 

 

 

Seller has made some mistakes, including giving his email address to the scammer in the first place, giving scammer his name and also his phone number and communicating with the “buyer” off-eBay. It’s possible that in the process of negotiations and communications, he divulged some banking information (so he’d need to be wary about so-called emails or text messages or phone calls supposedly from his bank). 

He at least didn’t buy this wretched gift card and send his item… so that’s some comfort for him. 

 

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Never said it was not a scam. I was just looking at how it worked but didn't know those details which had been deleted which makes a difference unlike your comment.

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Except they said the money was for it was paid to my account; yet my account still showed it was empty. Plus I would have received an email reply in my main mailbox from eBay regarding the payment and not in my junk mail 

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Thank you so much for the advice. Sadly though, I'm a hobbyist collector & most of the stuff I want to sell weren't cheap when I bought them; so I do try my hardest just think of a price that is fair both on me and the customer.

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Thank you for the advice, I've already learned my lesson not to speak to them outside of eBay😔

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😢I hadn't been on eBay in a while, so I didn't know 

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