on โ18-04-2014 05:01 AM
on โ18-04-2014 06:19 PM
SCO = Shilling doesn't hold up if the winning bidder honours their bid.
For a long time, I continually placed the first bid, at opening price, on a seller's items who sent out SCOs to every single underbidder, ensuring that every single time I was paying the lowest possible price the seller would obviously take for an item, and it also means it was impossible for me to have been "shilled".
on โ18-04-2014 06:43 PM
@iamanark wrote:eBay policy .............................................. LOL .
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Since when has ebay policy had anything to do with honesty ?
Who knows....but I do know that as a seller I WAS HONEST - and you are besmirching all sellers with your ridiculous retoric.
and if I spelt besmirching and retoric incorrectly I don't care, that's how MAD I am!
on โ18-04-2014 06:44 PM
There is another way that a SCO may be taken up and it's where the winner has paid for their item and a SCO is Emailed to the
underbidder.
I had two copies of: 4 WD Action DVD Victorian High Country,Ultimate 4WD guide,Iconic Destination,No4
Sold the first one for $20 (07-Sep-13)and the second one for $19.99 to the underbidder,(03-Sep-13).
The winner left feedback after the underbidder.
on โ18-04-2014 07:41 PM
I use second chance offers from time to time, usually when I have duplicate items for sale. I've never had any complaints from buyers and are happy to make an extra sale. To be honest I couldnt be bothered shilling my own auctions. I,ve got better things to do with my time. Second chance offers are not something I use a lot, but basically they are another handy tool to have in the box.
on โ18-04-2014 09:55 PM
I have been an Ebay buyer for many years. In all that time I have never had a second chance offer from a seller on anything I have bid on. Don't get that really. If someone has outbid me then not paid the seller I would appreciate such an offer. There is always a choice for the new prospective buyer - accept gladly or politely decline. Others may think differently of course. That's their prerogative but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that there was shill bidding as there are so many non-payers.
on โ18-04-2014 10:17 PM
Sound out the ID for the one who claims every seller is shonky.
on โ19-04-2014 08:15 AM
@sprinklespowerpuff wrote:I have been an Ebay buyer for many years. In all that time I have never had a second chance offer from a seller on anything I have bid on. Don't get that really. If someone has outbid me then not paid the seller I would appreciate such an offer. There is always a choice for the new prospective buyer - accept gladly or politely decline. Others may think differently of course. That's their prerogative but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that there was shill bidding as there are so many non-payers.
Usually when you have a non payer with auctions it takes 10-12 days to sort out ( yes I know I can do it in eight, but I usually give them a fair go, maybe a message or two etc. ) By this time I figure the underbidder would have moved on and so usually just relist as the uptake rate for SCO's is only around 25% anyway. I normally only use them for duplicate items.
โ19-04-2014 11:55 PM - edited โ19-04-2014 11:57 PM
Thanks very much for trying to undermine a perfectly ligitimate selling tool.
If I sell an item ($6.00 start) for $30.00 and I have a second identical one I always send the underbidder a second chance to buy it at the price that THEY set as THEIR maximum.
Some people take it up and some dont, that is their perogative.
I never have and never will bid on my own items (is that even possible?) I let the market set the price.
Some of the sellers here are honest, please do not lump everyone into the same basket.
I am honest and genuine and do not appreciate being called otherwise.
on โ21-04-2014 07:04 AM
I didn't know that most auctions even had a reserve price option?
They start at whatever the seller lists them at and go from there.
I have had quite a few second chance offers.
Some were definitely sellers who had more than one of the item, because they were new items.
In a couple of other cases, the sellers contacted me and said the winning buyer had sent a message to say they no longer wanted the item, so it was now available to me as a second chance offer. Often the second chance offer was in the next day, although sometimes a couple of days out.
To be honest, in a couple of cases i wasn't even sure what the second chance offer was for till i clicked on the listing because once you lose an auction or even get outbid, you tend to forget all about it.
I usually take them up on second chance offers.
I would say most of the sellers are genuine.
They are lucky though if a buyer lets them know quickly that payment won't be happening. From what i have read, a few buyers are just never heard from again after bidding and the seller has to wait quite a while to sort it out. If that happened, i don't think a second chance offer would work so well a couple of weeks down the track.
Second chance offers can vary in that sellers can set how long the offer is open for-mine have varied between 24 hours and 3 days. 24 hours isn't long as a buyer may not check their account daily. But on the other hand, it depends on how long a seller wants to hold up the relisting process too as a second chance offer may not be taken up or even replied to.