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@padi*0409 wrote:
@davewil1964 wrote:I thought it was firetruck, but my eyes aren't what they were.
This is a facinorous firetruck................................
...................................or a mobile alpaca washing station.
@seniorladygamer,
I note by the feedback you have left for your sellers that you are accustomed to typing with your CAPS LOCK button on, so that everything you type is in uppercase / all capitals.
In case you're not aware, text that is typed in all capitals is considered shouting on the internet. (Some people will disagree; some will say it's a courtesy, not a requirement; the general perception, however, is that it's aggressive and lacking in courtesy.) Even if you don't consider it to represent shouting, it is certainly harder for most people to read as easily and readily as sentence case.
That's something you may want to keep in mind in any future posting online.
On to the substance of your post... Well, I don't like the crudity of some words which are deliberately offensive. Most Australians may be unaware that using offensive language (which includes the F-bomb) in public is a summary offensive. ❝Queensland (Summary Offences Act 2005 s 6), New South Wales (Summary Offences Act 1988 s 4) and Victoria (Summary Offences Act 1966 s 17) all have laws that cover offensive language in public. The offensive language provisions in both Queensland and Victoria may result in imprisonment for up to six months.❞
Social culture is at odds with these Acts in some contexts, which means we see a disconnect between a group of drunken teens trying to out-swear each other at a train station, and a meeting of business executives hammering out a financial deal, and a white-tie event, and a party of friends, and so on.
You have every right to dislike offensive language around you, although of course that is different to proscribing other people's way of speaking. Is it illegal? Well... it's complicated! If an individual uses profanity in a public place, it is potentially a criminal offence, hence yes... illegal.
But... the advertising code doesn't prohobit profanity per se. It comes down to intent, context, target audience, and more. If you're interested, you may want to read an Advertising Standards Authority (UK) ruling on a very controversial Spotify promotional email where you can see Spotify's defence (attempts to provide a "reasonable excuse"), and the ASA's decision. (It upheld the complaint.)
Closer to home, Ad Standards say:
❝The Community Panel acknowledges that some people would prefer certain terms were not used, but when a word is not used aggressively or in a medium where children are likely to be exposed to it, or it is used in a colloquial context which is consistent with Australian vernacular, it will not be considered as a breach of the Code.❞
(AANA Code of Ethics - it's Section 2.5 breaches which are the breaches pertaining to offensive language.)
Obviously profanity occurs in some films, and these of course are dealt (in Australia) under the Australian classification system (under the Department of Communication and the Arts), as you're no doubt aware. One "reasonable excuse" defence is when profanity is used in art - by which I mean music, drama, painting, sculpture, etc.
In terms of the socks, I myself wouldn't be browsing socks with profanities on them, but it's a wide world out there and I have no doubt that some people find rude words on socks to be the epitome of hilarity and wit.
In terms of eBay's position on this, I'll quote from eBay's Profanity policy:
❝Bay doesn't allow the use of hateful, offensive, profane, or vulgar language in public areas of the website. Public areas include listings, products, profiles, Feedback, discussion boards, and more.
Defamatory language (language or comments that could be considered harmful to the reputation of another eBay member) is also strictly prohibited on eBay.❞
However...
❝Music CDs, movie DVDs or other media items with titles that include profanity are allowed on eBay as long as any profane words are part of the official title.❞
and more specifically...
Allowed in some situations
- Novelty items (hats, T-shirts and so on) with profanity have to meet the following criteria:
- The majority of the profane word has to be replaced with asterisks (for example, s*** or f***).
- Any image showing the profane word needs to be blurred out as well.
If the listings you've mentioned don't have the majority of the profane word asterisked out, then it's against policy and you can make a complaint to eBay quoting their Profanity policy.
If the image of the socks shows the profane word clearly (i.e., it isn't blurred out), then again, you can make a complaint to eBay quoting their Profanity policy.
But in the meantime (I'm assuming that you legitimately feel offended and upset, as - if I'm wrong and this is a wind-up - I don't mind wearing egg on my face), I hope that you can browse for novelty socks without having offensive results ruin your search.
@countessalmirena wrote:
I note by the feedback you have left for your sellers that you are accustomed to typing with your CAPS LOCK button on, so that everything you type is in uppercase / all capitals.
In case you're not aware, text that is typed in all capitals is considered shouting on the internet. (Some people will disagree; some will say it's a courtesy, not a requirement; the general perception, however, is that it's aggressive and lacking in courtesy.) Even if you don't consider it to represent shouting, it is certainly harder for most people to read as easily and readily as sentence case.
That's something you may want to keep in mind in any future posting online.
On to the substance of your post... Well, I don't like the crudity of some words which are deliberately offensive. Most Australians may be unaware that using offensive language (which includes the F-bomb) in public is a summary offensive. ❝Queensland (Summary Offences Act 2005 s 6), New South Wales (Summary Offences Act 1988 s 4) and Victoria (Summary Offences Act 1966 s 17) all have laws that cover offensive language in public. The offensive language provisions in both Queensland and Victoria may result in imprisonment for up to six months.❞
Social culture is at odds with these Acts in some contexts, which means we see a disconnect between a group of drunken teens trying to out-swear each other at a train station, and a meeting of business executives hammering out a financial deal, and a white-tie event, and a party of friends, and so on.
You have every right to dislike offensive language around you, although of course that is different to proscribing other people's way of speaking. Is it illegal? Well... it's complicated! If an individual uses profanity in a public place, it is potentially a criminal offence, hence yes... illegal.
But... the advertising code doesn't prohobit profanity per se. It comes down to intent, context, target audience, and more. If you're interested, you may want to read an Advertising Standards Authority (UK) ruling on a very controversial Spotify promotional email where you can see Spotify's defence (attempts to provide a "reasonable excuse"), and the ASA's decision. (It upheld the complaint.)
Closer to home, Ad Standards say:
❝The Community Panel acknowledges that some people would prefer certain terms were not used, but when a word is not used aggressively or in a medium where children are likely to be exposed to it, or it is used in a colloquial context which is consistent with Australian vernacular, it will not be considered as a breach of the Code.❞
(AANA Code of Ethics - it's Section 2.5 breaches which are the breaches pertaining to offensive language.)
Obviously profanity occurs in some films, and these of course are dealt (in Australia) under the Australian classification system (under the Department of Communication and the Arts), as you're no doubt aware. One "reasonable excuse" defence is when profanity is used in art - by which I mean music, drama, painting, sculpture, etc.
In terms of the socks, I myself wouldn't be browsing socks with profanities on them, but it's a wide world out there and I have no doubt that some people find rude words on socks to be the epitome of hilarity and wit.
In terms of eBay's position on this, I'll quote from eBay's Profanity policy:
❝Bay doesn't allow the use of hateful, offensive, profane, or vulgar language in public areas of the website. Public areas include listings, products, profiles, Feedback, discussion boards, and more.
Defamatory language (language or comments that could be considered harmful to the reputation of another eBay member) is also strictly prohibited on eBay.❞
However...
❝Music CDs, movie DVDs or other media items with titles that include profanity are allowed on eBay as long as any profane words are part of the official title.❞
and more specifically...
- Novelty items (hats, T-shirts and so on) with profanity have to meet the following criteria:
- The majority of the profane word has to be replaced with asterisks (for example, s*** or f***).
- Any image showing the profane word needs to be blurred out as well.
If the listings you've mentioned don't have the majority of the profane word asterisked out, then it's against policy and you can make a complaint to eBay quoting their Profanity policy.
If the image of the socks shows the profane word clearly (i.e., it isn't blurred out), then again, you can make a complaint to eBay quoting their Profanity policy.
But in the meantime (I'm assuming that you legitimately feel offended and upset, as - if I'm wrong and this is a wind-up - I don't mind wearing egg on my face), I hope that you can browse for novelty socks without having offensive results ruin your search.
I must say I,m genuinly impressed countess,
Spoiler
But I take it there was nothing worth watching on telly tonight......
The Countess, I bow to your wisdom and comprehensive post.
But I take it there was nothing worth watching on telly tonight......
You are correct. Foxtel have the BBL on high ratings nights. And that was only ever the remotest interesting thing broadcast in January
Television, shmelevision... I have paperwork to do with a pounding headache, and I desperately need coffee.
