Important, International Post

Hi

 

Everybody needs to be aware of the new rules for International postage. If you send an item without a trackable number [by normal airmail] you will not be covered by Seller Protection any more.

 

By this I mean that I sent an item to Singapore by normal airmail at the buyers request [he did not want to pay for registered mail] It supposedly went missing. He then opened a case with Ebay USA stating that he had not received the item. Ebay looked into the case and he won. When I contacted Ebay to appeal, they stated that even though that I told the buyer that I could not be held resonsible if the item goes missing if you do not take registered mail. because it did not have a trackable number he WILL WIN every time.

 

According to Ebay you must now send ALL INTERNATIONAL items with a trackable number [either Insured or Registered] or if it goes missing, or if the buyer just says it goes missing [they do not have to prove it] they WILL be reimbursed and you have no grounds to appeal.

 

So much for Seller Protection, Seller Beware.

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Yes this has been the case for a while now. I send quite a few large letters overseas weekly .. $6.50 normal, $22 registered- the only tracking available ... Pack and Track is the same price. So far I've had 99.9% success with deliveries.
Touch wood, I've only had 1 buyer play the system, demanding to know tracking details 2 weeks after posting.
I say 'play the system', because they wouldn't listen to reason, but also let slip in their harassing emails that the item was for a wedding, and that they'd been spending too much, and wanted a refund NOW. 

I have stamped receipts from the Post Office for all postage, but I couldn't be bothered arguing the case, and ended up just refunding to get rid of her.  

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What I do with smaller orders overseas that I don't send Pack & Track I use any old bar code from anything and stick it under the air mail sticker. I checked this with my post office last year and they said it doesn't do anything and won't interfer with sending the parcel. I recon that when a buyer sees a bar code they think it has got a tracking number asigned to their parcel and think twice about saying they never received it. Touch wood since doing this I have had only 1 parcel go missing and I recon that buyer was legitament and I send him a refund. 

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I still send by airmail (no tracking available) for international post. I do take out extra cover on higher value items. If parcels without extra cover went missing I would refund. I haven't had any problem so far.
I mainly sell to UK, US and Canada only. If a buyer from other country ask I will send to them. I don't sell electronics or other items scammers go for.

The cost of international post, plus the add on to cover FVF's is enough to put buyers off..
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In responce to am*3

 

You have been lucky so far. But like I say once one goes missing you wont have a leg to stand on with the new rules. Mine was only a photograph.

Once the buyers learn this can happen it will be on the increase. I see it as a way for buyers to get the item and the money back. Because once again Ebay has not thought it through properly.

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I also had a proof of posting receit and attached it so Ebay could view it. They said it made no differance.

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Quote: "According to Ebay you must now send ALL INTERNATIONAL items with a trackable number [either Insured or Registered] or if it goes missing, or if the buyer just says it goes missing [they do not have to prove it] they WILL be reimbursed and you have no grounds to appeal."

 

I might lose as much as one in a thousand items that I ship internationally, but for me the probabilities increase greatly into the Middle East countries (and, I am told by others, into South America - although I have never lost postcards I have sold into South American countries). I do get more items that travel slower than they should, and generally if I suggest waiting a week before going further, the customer is usually comfortable, and the item usually arrives in that period.

 

If selling small or low value items, the question is whether it is worth quadrupling your postage costs and/or charges, and the effects that has on sales, or just reimbursing on the rare occasion an item goes missing. So far this has suited my business model, but with changes to the defect system and buyer protection that may change, as doing the right thing by the buyer and resolving an issue will now be deemed to still be a defect.

 

It has long been a case though, that if you can not supply tracking for an item, that you will lose any PayPal dispute. You need to calculate the risks and benefits of supplying viable postage for items that you sell, whether international or local (ie: occasional reimbursement vs. how much your sales totals are increased by having a viable shipping rate). I include registration or equivalent on sales/parcels over a certain value, and basically wear the risk for lower valuie items. If I reimburse about once a year on a parcel below that value, the savings/benefits are substantial. You just need to work out whether that type of business model suits your business.

 

Regards,  Kevin

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You have been lucky so far. But like I say once one goes missing you wont have a leg to stand on with the new rules.

 

It isn't a new rule or policy though. It has been the same for quite some time. Perhaps you never noticed because you haven't had any international post go missing before.

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