Is FB marketplace, something ebay is aware of?

[walenad]

Because if this payment delay isn't removed, I'm never coming back.

[i_got_dust-collectors]

"I'm sure the loss of your 2 sales in 6 months will cause eBay to recant."

come down from your ivory tower davewill .. plus your metrics are incorrect .. I sell more than that .. I am a mom and pop seller and set up a few accounts to take advantage of ebays 10 free listing policy years ago .. .. I have clarified in the post to DG about the mistake in the link .. I don't expect an apology from you .. but .. there it is .. a simple mistake .. I linked the wrong help page is all .. 

this is the page I tried to remove my managed payments account with here ..

https://www.ebay.com.au/help/account/changing-account-settings/closing-account-deleting-data?id=4199...

[i_got_dust-collectors]

"@ digitalghost

I can't recall ebay saying at any stage that I would be required to supply my internet banking login to remove banking details that I supplied to sign up to the compulsory ebay/ayden managed payments platform .. can you find a link to that feature of ebay/ayden managed payments platform in the fine print of the user agreement they forced me to if I want to stay selling here for me DG? .. I am feeling a bit lazy on this after a difficult day ..

Lol, your laziness doesn't make anything my responsibility. "

That sounds unhelpful DG .. I thought you BB regulars prided yourselves on "knowing everything" there is to know about these things ?.. so you are happy with the situation? obviously don't give a stuff about my situation and most likely the plight of others? .. I know this song .. its called "I'll be right Jack" .. sweet for you .. 

[i_got_dust-collectors]

"We've had plenty - they fail because they just exist in their own little space and don't do anything to reach people, expand or market themselves. Competing with eBay is not as simple as it sounds"

No DG ..  they fail because of monopoly practices and the Australian regulator who facilitates share swaps and backroom deals between globalist interests and allows takeovers, buyouts and shutdowns of Australian e-commerce sites so as to maintain the status quo .. sites are shut down without being offered for sale .. that is crime .. especially where stockholders are involved like with the quicksales shutdown .. that is but a single example . we have also seen the same thing with sold.com.au when it was an e-commerce enterprise site for aussies way back in the day there ..  .. thing is I remember everything .. and also have hindsight ..

in short a small player has no chance .. we would need a name behind it .. someone like dick smith .. or harvey norman maybe or even a bigger player like rupert murdoch .. but murdoch/newscorp sold out once already by canning gofish just as it was getting legs .. newscorp just shut it down .. no offers to sell .. that is a a little suspicious .. yes? .. like a back room deal perhaps? .. I think dick smith would be a perfect fit for a go at it .. he seems to have backbone and like me he is gaslighted often as being a conspiracy nut .. he just seems like the right guy for this job .. he could leave a legacy to this country .. a corporatised foundation etc .. I would support something like this ..

.. but the problem is these megalithic marketeers/racketeers/investment-groups have tentacles that strangle and entrap .. and yes I agree competing with ebay is not as simple as it sounds .. bingo on that ..

[i_got_dust-collectors]

"The only way I can see a new third-party platform being able to legitimately give eBay a run for its money, is if someone can capitalise on a newer novelty that no one else has yet, but continue to be able to innovate and attract buyers so that they don't die after the novelty has worn off. This would mean letting go of any and all nostalgia for the eBay of the past, BTW, because it's mostly sellers mourning that loss, and it's buyers that these kinds of sites need to attract (sellers are a given in one form or another, if buyers are there)."

I kinda agree on that too DG but that is what is required for a grassroots crack at the big dog .. yes perceptive .. but I think a player like Dick Smith .. with his name and all .. could just compete directly ..

but back to your observation .. I have some neat ideas .. but they are ultimately distractions to the way I like to sell .. set and forget is what I like .. when the buyer comes along he/she gets the item they are wanting/needing .. simple .. but yeah there would be other ways .. maybe gimmicky and a little time consuming .. turnkey is the go for this typa thing .. we want fast tools and progress .. we don't want our markets subverted and diluted .. we just want to buy/sell what we want when we want and get on with other stuff .. we have other things to do with our lives than be suckered and played for fools ..

[i_got_dust-collectors]

but yeah an enterprise website like ebay would be a complete headache to run .. if I thought if was easy or a possibility of success I would have done it .. so many hurdles to jump and jump on a daily basis to run a site like ebay .. I get it ..  I can understand a lot of ebay's policies .. and understand they want to know exactly who I am so I don't commit fraud and they report my sales/tax etc etc .. and understand there are certain risks with selling online where occasionally a sale goes off the rails .. it would be difficult business to run properly ..

.. is a shame I have seen a few aussie e-commerce websites come and go that I was happy with ..

anyway not into this handing over my internet banking password stuff .. it is just rude .. and probably trashed that bank accounts security .. realistically I should just close the whole bank account and hope any data that may have been scraped from my bank account isn't used to exploit me later down the track sometime ..

[i_got_dust-collectors]

I just wonder where that data could end up .. like it exists somewhere and seems they are all getting wild and loose about who gets that data .. so I have to consider the worst case scenario and that is they all got bits and pieces of my data .. and probably the NSA and a few spook departments about the world can call it up etc .. I kinda get it though .. but my guess is eventually it is all used against us .. there it is in a nutshell .. I already said it before .. but there is too much evidence now of the way they share and monetise data and I reakon all parties are reluctant to delete that stuff .. so my data is out there .. almost freely accessible to some .. what will they do with it? .. when will they decide to do bad things with it? how do I prepare for a worst case scenario?  like I didn't expect surveillance capitalism to get to this so it will only get worse ..

I hear we are headed towards a subscription based model with more cloud based apps too .. "they" have been preparing a few things for years .. adobe creative suite already a cloud based subscription model .. all major commercial software will be sold that way, probably MS windows too and corporations all acting as pseudo gatekeepers for intellectual property rights and "suspicious activity" ..

it all sounds benign but I have seen a sinister side to governments and globalist corporations throughout history and am not convinced my data will stay in safe hands forever .. anyway .. just soldier on I guess ..

[padi*0409]

Nobody has yet replied to your last 7 posts, perhaps your account has already been got at and only a select few members can see them...........or then again, maybe not............

[i_got_dust-collectors]

"...........or then again, maybe not............"

.. is that a conspiracy theory padi? .. a rabbit hole? .. the plot thickens ..  mysterious music playing in the background ..

[digital*ghost]

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@i_got_dust-collectors wrote:

"@ digitalghost

I can't recall ebay saying at any stage that I would be required to supply my internet banking login to remove banking details that I supplied to sign up to the compulsory ebay/ayden managed payments platform .. can you find a link to that feature of ebay/ayden managed payments platform in the fine print of the user agreement they forced me to if I want to stay selling here for me DG? .. I am feeling a bit lazy on this after a difficult day ..

Lol, your laziness doesn't make anything my responsibility. "

That sounds unhelpful DG .. I thought you BB regulars prided yourselves on "knowing everything" there is to know about these things ?.. so you are happy with the situation? obviously don't give a stuff about my situation and most likely the plight of others? .. I know this song .. its called "I'll be right Jack" .. sweet for you .. 

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That's a pretty uncharitable interpretation of me pointing out I'm not your research monkey - you being too lazy to look for information you want, doesn't mean I have some kind of obligation to do it for you - to imply otherwise is very strange.

There is  no "obviously", if you read any of the posts I've made about managed payments outside of this thread, for the most part you'll find I've been pretty balanced on my observations, and aware of the drawbacks of the system that can put sellers at a disadvantage, I also understand why some sellers have decided eBay is no longer for them - the only thing I have a problem with is misinformation, and people having kneejerk reactions due to baulking at the idea of something rather than seeking to be fully informed about it. If people are going to be making decisions about their future on eBay, then it is only fair to everyone that the information available to base that decision on is correct and balanced. 

To that end, eBay / adyen do not get your login details, so quit with the "I've figured out the whole conspiracy" thing, when you're not even basing your theories in reality. The online verification is facilitated by a business called Trustly (terrible name, but this is them https://www.trustly.net/en-ca/products/online-banking-data ). You can find info on that site that details exactly what gets passed on through this system, and as I've already said in a previous post, it's personal info, not login details. 

[i_got_dust-collectors]

"That's a pretty uncharitable interpretation of me pointing out I'm not your research monkey - you being too lazy to look for information you want, doesn't mean I have some kind of obligation to do it for you - to imply otherwise is very strange."

i set you a challenge .. you failed .. the rest of your reply there is excuses and playing apologist for ebay/ayden and company .. and gaslighting me ..