on 24-11-2013 01:08 PM
Just a thought at this stage.....
We wondered if when we are done with selling on ebay (some day in the future) we might want to sell the entire business lock, stock & barrell rather than simply close it down.
The new owner would take over our built-up good-will, FB scores etc including all our stock holdings.
They would just have to link in their own PayPal and bank accounts etc and off they go with a running store.
Anyone know if/not this is possible or even a good idea?
on 24-11-2013 03:08 PM
@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:I have seen some eBay IDs listed over the years. Do a search for eBay store sale and you will see 4 listings. The one for 5,000,000 has been listed since last year and 17 offers have been declined. I would think that if it was not allowed then the listing would not be able to be relisted so many times.
I just rang eBay and they said that the sale of an eBay ID cannot be listed on eBay. (But it can be advertised elsewhere) This is not written anywhere, however it is a rule which apparently we "should" know. The staff member said she has escalated this to (I don't know where) asking for clarification - (the gist was that to have it written somewhere in case our crystal balls were broken)
The lady also says that eBay can't stop you selling the business - but she did say that to transfer the user name - the account had to be closed? for 35 days, before anyone else could use that user name???? but then wouldn't this cause the loss of the feedback as well?
Then on the other hand she said that of course the feedback can be transferred, and if the new person was dodgy, eventually "the system" would catch up with them and account restrictions etc would be applied...
Seems to be conflicting ionformation with the User Agreement?
(I even tried to ring twioce to get a different person - but I got THE SAME ONE both times LOL - even though I went through a dif category)
Plus I forgot to ask HOW to get the consent referred to in the User Agreement.
Maybe someone else could give them a call - they may know how to ask the questions or understand the answers better....
on 24-11-2013 03:17 PM
@my*mum wrote:
Then on the other hand she said that of course the feedback can be transferred, and if the new person was dodgy, eventually "the system" would catch up with them and account restrictions etc would be applied...
Great, I got a bunch of fake brand name stuff to sell and eBay are impeding me as a new seller with their annoying selling restrictions.
I know! I'll just go buy someone's established ID with no restrictions.
Nice one, eBay.
on 24-11-2013 03:19 PM
Money talks DG ...
on 24-11-2013 03:26 PM
@thecatspjs wrote:Money talks DG ...
Mine's a one-trick pony - it only ever says goodbye.
on 24-11-2013 03:30 PM
@digital*ghost wrote:
@my*mum wrote:
Then on the other hand she said that of course the feedback can be transferred, and if the new person was dodgy, eventually "the system" would catch up with them and account restrictions etc would be applied...
Great, I got a bunch of fake brand name stuff to sell and eBay are impeding me as a new seller with their annoying selling restrictions.
I know! I'll just go buy someone's established ID with no restrictions.
Nice one, eBay.
it seems weird to me digi, especially with consideration of the User Agreement, but that's what eBay said twice...
I know that donnashuggy knows a member who went through the process of transferring the business, and from what I could make out, it wasn't easy.... Maybe someone who posts in poersellers could ask her?
24-11-2013 03:39 PM - edited 24-11-2013 03:41 PM
From e-commerce bytes July 2010
eBay Roadblocks
Be aware that selling an eBay business has special risks - eBay makes it very difficult for sellers to transfer their eBay User ID to another owner. eBay spokesperson Johnna Hoff explained, "As a general rule, we do not allow users to transfer eBay user IDs. It's important to understand that this helps protect the reputation a seller has built and the integrity of our feedback system. In relatively rare situations that involve the sale of an entire business, we may give consent to a seller to transfer the user ID connected to that business. We consider these requests on a case-by-case basis and work with the requestor on the specific requirements of the transfer process."
However, Ms. Hoff declined to explain how sellers would submit such a request, stating that it was such a rare occurrence that eBay did not publish any sort of contact. "Rather, we consider these cases if they arise, which is quite infrequently."
Lol in the real world businesses are sold very frequently indeed ...
on 24-11-2013 03:48 PM
@thecatspjs wrote:From e-commerce bytes July 2010
eBay Roadblocks
Be aware that selling an eBay business has special risks - eBay makes it very difficult for sellers to transfer their eBay User ID to another owner. eBay spokesperson Johnna Hoff explained, "As a general rule, we do not allow users to transfer eBay user IDs. It's important to understand that this helps protect the reputation a seller has built and the integrity of our feedback system. In relatively rare situations that involve the sale of an entire business, we may give consent to a seller to transfer the user ID connected to that business. We consider these requests on a case-by-case basis and work with the requestor on the specific requirements of the transfer process."
However, Ms. Hoff declined to explain how sellers would submit such a request, stating that it was such a rare occurrence that eBay did not publish any sort of contact. "Rather, we consider these cases if they arise, which is quite infrequently."
Lol in the real world businesses are sold very frequently indeed ...
Yeah, but since when is eBay the real world.
An eBay business is one thing, an eBay ID is something a little different. eBay is a little more unique in that the business is more the stock and - possibly - customer base. The ID is a history and reputation that shouldn't be transferable, (in my opinion, special circumstances notwithstanding).
Listings on eBay for stores are a bad idea even if it wasn't against policy - it doesn't exactly allow anyone to be (completely) discriminate about who buys the business.
24-11-2013 04:03 PM - edited 24-11-2013 04:04 PM
What a mouthpiece says and what occurs, as we know, are two very different things.
I reckon that a raft of legislation is relevant including restriction of trade if ebay prevented user IDs for businesses to be transferred.
IMO I also reckon that many businesses transferring ownership would just do as I did and do a simple name change, press submit and move on and never think about it again.
By making the change, submitting the electronic form to ebay, by default if the change occurs it indicates at least ebays interim approval , what more can one do when there are no other apparant policys or guidelines to follow. The user agreement indicates that user IDs are transferable with ebay approval - and does not indicate what process needs to be followed.
on 24-11-2013 04:16 PM
I suppose it depends if the eBay account is a business account.
If not, then it is similar to a sole trader selling up. They sell their stock, maybe even premise lease, but not their name.
on 24-11-2013 04:28 PM
@thecatspjs wrote:It is a simple straightforward process. You change the name, as you would your address and submit it electronically. if the new name successfully appears in the account details and account is still operational, eBay have accepted the name change through the process they have provided to the same. Done it twice, no drama.
so what are you talking about here?
and how does this relate to the OP?
just having trouble joining the dots.