Is the new "Temporary" Seller protection being applied to item not received cases??

 

Hi all,

 

I was very happy to read of the new "Temporary" Seller Protection Policy ebay.com.au announced, that came into effect of 1st October 2020. The full policy is this:

 

New Tracking Changes Will Come Into Effect Soon
by  eBay Employee 2 weeks ago - last edited 2 weeks ago

 

This year, COVID-19 has changed the way both sellers and carriers fulfil and deliver eBay orders, so it’s never been more important to ensure your orders are tracked.

 

As announced in the recent Spring Seller Update, the below changes will apply from October 1 until at least January 2021. These temporary changes are applicable to all transactions on ebay.com.au

 

  • Sellers who use a postage tracked service AND upload valid tracking
    • For items valued up to $15,  we’ll automatically resolve the request on your behalf and refund the buyer. We’ll absorb the cost of the refund and you won’t receive a defect, provided that the order:
      • Was sent using an eBay-integrated carrier
      • Has at least one valid tracking event (i.e. an acceptance scan) 
    • For items valued over $15, you should still respond to the request and ensure that the tracking number for the order is correct. However, if we're asked to step in and help, we’ll automatically resolve the claim. If we determine the buyer should receive a refund, we'll absorb the cost and you won’t receive a defect, provided that the order:
      • Was sent using an eBay-integrated carrier
      • Has at least one valid tracking event (e.g. an acceptance scan)
      • Was sent within your stated handling time 
  • Sellers who use an untracked postage service or do not upload valid tracking 
    • If a buyer opens an ‘Item not received’ request, we will resolve the request and refund them after 3 business days, unless the request is closed. We will do this without requiring the buyer to ask eBay to step in and help.

We’ve also updated our list of eBay-integrated carriers. Hong Kong Post, UBI and La Poste are no longer available for overseas sellers sending items to Australia. USPS is also no longer available for Australian-based sellers sending an item overseas. 

 

 

I have had an Item not received case opened on 1st October, for an item of approx AU$43. As the item was posted by Australia Post (an ebay integrated carrier) with tracking, has 2 Australia Post activity events/scans - although not yet delivered (policy says 1 required), and was sent next day after payment  was made (within my stated handling time)  I was confident that for once ebay would actually protect me from this problem with delayed postage that is clearly out of my control.  I waited for this "new policy" to sort out the case (as I would under normal circumstances refund the buyer myself), after a few days I asked the buyer to click on the "Ask ebay to step in"  button, which they did after waiting the 7 days. (I was doing EVERYTHING the new policy asks).

 

Within minutes ebay resolved the case, refunded the buyer from my paypal, and gave me a defect for an unresolved transaction.

Needless to say I was taken aback,and very annoyed. the next 1 hour and 22minuites were spent on a chat where the customer service person confirmed the new policy was in force, but apart from that they could not help me.....they bounced me from person to person for well over an hour. Eventaully I asked to have contact with a manager or supervisor, which they tried to not do...eventually they said nobody was available, but the supervisor would send me an email within 48 hours....Guess what? No email. (I would really like to complain abouth this service from the chat people, but first thing is first).

 

I am writing here in the hope others may have had this issue, and can offer some help or advise, or let me know a way to contact ebay Australia to try and sort this out.

 

Thanks

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@semi-conductors wrote:

Hi Dave,

 

I completely understand how you feel. I appealed my lost case as well.....it took about 2 mins before they came back with that same message that the original decision was upheld and was correct. - the message also said: "We didn't receive valid proof of delivery from you. Sellers must provide tracking info showing the item was delivered. For items over AU $750.00, shipping with signature confirmation is also required." 

 

Nobody seems to understand, or care that according to the ebay anouncement the requirement for proof of delivery is not required, if the transaction meets the given criteria....not to mention that according to Australia Post  "Signature on delivery" is suspended due to COVID-19 restrictions.....so how can anyone comply with that requirement at the present time???

 

After being on a chat to 3 different people in India for well over an hour they simply said "we cant help you with this".....could not explain anything, or provide a reason why the new policy is not being applied to INR cases.....totally hopeless. The said a supervisor would email me back within 48 hours.....but they have not done so. I wish I could attach the transcript of the chat......it makes them look very bad.....but they don't care!!

 

 


Hey did you leave the ebay code in the cust address ??????      IF NOT this may be the reason they are giving you guys a hard time as there no way for them to recover costs.   As they are not a party to the package..... what that code does is makes them a party to the package so giving them power to chase costs etc...     Think of a daul addressed letter eg  MR and MRS Smith     <<<<   either mr or mrs smith can chase the package or letter.    where if it was MR smith only     ONLY Mr smith could raise claims etc as they are the only named   party...    

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Hi,

 

I can confirm that all my sent items have the ebay code on the item, exactly as shown in the transaction record.....it is copy and pasted into the Dymo label software, and printed on adhesive address labels. My item was posted in 3136 (Croydon) on 18th August.....it was going all the way to 3910 (Langwarrin).....it has been been to Strathfield NSW, and back to Dandenong on 17th September.....with no more details, or any replies to the Aus post Customer Enquiry....hopeless

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Chase AP up on facebook. You are much more likely to get a useful response.

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Hey did you leave the ebay code in the cust address ??

 

Hi Silver Fox... what is an ebay code please ? I had a look at the paypal reciept and the email from ebay but cannot see a code?

I see a transaction id number and an order number

Unless... i just looked on the print label and there is a number? 

I have never used the print label and the paypal reciept and ebay email do not have this

Dave

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I might have too chase up on facebook. sttill no reply from Aus Post..though I dont use facebook never had an account ... will use my partners

Dave

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@yarmak wrote:

I might have too chase up on facebook. sttill no reply from Aus Post..though I dont use facebook never had an account ... will use my partners

Dave


I would definitely follow up on Facebook. You can create an account purely for this kind of thing. You don't have to put anything on it, you just need an active account.

 

I have found AP to be very efficient when raising a case via FB. There are 2 types of people who leave messages. Those who rant, rave, scream, swear, out for blood etc. Then there are those who remain calm, type a brief, polite message, outlining facts, and thank them for any advice they can offer. Be that second person. It really does make a difference and they will bend over backwards to help you if you are polite to them.

 

Once they have acknowleged your message, they will probably ask you to send a private message, where they'll want a more in depth message about what is going on. There you can give them personal details, like name, address, tracking numbers etc, if they ask for it. Sometimes, once they have all the details, it could take a few days for them to get back to you if they have to investigate things, but they will get back to you.

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Well my parcel was delivered yesterday to NSW.The buyer has my money and my book.

Ebay knew  Aus Post  were looking into it but instead just give money back to buyer

How do I open a (re)-appeal on the case ?

Dave

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Well I went to re open the case and the search function does not recognise the :

case number

item number

title

 

Dave

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contacted ebay...told me to ask buyer for $$...ebay will follow up and ask them to refund to me...we will see....

Dave

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for those interested...buyer was lovely. and refunded me.

So just so you know:

ebay do not take into account thrid party investigations at the time of the claim

Ebay do not talk to the seller at the time of the claim- all you get is a rude email from ebay saying if this is not fixed on xxx date they'will take action' ie refund the buyer

Ebay do not care about reciepts...ebay do not care about tracking

Austrralia post,when regiatering items to post. and they showed me this, do not have the room on their screens for the database for the stupid ebay letters they give you for the address so do not enter them

Dave

 

 

 

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