Licencing and Copyright

We are wondering where one goes to find out if some kind of licence is available to sell certain products. eg Peppa Pig or Frozen products.

And then where do we go to obtain such licences/permissions to sell.

Does the ebay VERO program have a web site where such info might be available?

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Maybe look at some smaller fish first, to wet your feet (so to speak, and to mix metaphors in a gross kind of way if you think about it. Smiley Surprised )

 

Anyway, what I mean is, there's probably some smaller, independent companies with characters, themes etc, that might be suitable for you, and it might help create some niche lines, too. They don't necessarily have to be children's characters etc, there are lots of parents who dress up their kids in Star Wars stuff, so you could find something along those kinds of lines, too.

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correct as my first words were do you have plenty of moolah.

 

i remember being invollved maybe 25 years ago in a major toy company that had the license to use bananas in pyjamas foam pull out sofas , which you can buy from target and co , a standard kids sofa would sell at  wholesale price $17   a banana in pyjamas kids sofa same material same factory $29   $ 12 license fee for evey pull out kids sofa aprox 40%  ouch 

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I actually contacted  a larger seller of these kind of product lines on that other site (aforementioned E***Y) and asked about her problems getting licences to sell this kind of product. She sells lots of this kinda stuff other than just Disney across many platfroms including ebay. We found her presence on at least five selling platforms.

 

She replied very quickly and without actually saying outright she does not have any licences she said you don't need a licence as she has been selling this stuff for 3-years now and has only once had a problem where she was asked to take down an Octanauts listing.

 

Her listings are all present loud & clear on ebay too including the Octanauts one.

So even ebay have not given her any grief in selling these items.

 

I know that doesnt make it right, it just means she has not been caught yet.

I suspect tho that if the IP holders get wind of it she may come crashing down.

Either that or there really is no licence requirement.

I need to fish around some more.

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Either that or there really is no licence requirement.

 

Definitely a licence requirement needed for manufacturing/ selling Disney themed items e.g. Frozen themed items are a current big seller, Disney  aren't going to let every Tom, Dick and Harry tap into that market with no cut for themselves.

 

It is not fair to buyers either, if item is claimed to be Disney but it isn't one of their licensed products.

 

This is from the other e site, late last year, in the US. (I have abbr other sites names)

 

Disney is really aggressively going after people on all venues. Especially for any items pertaining to Frozen. They have shut down a ton of shops on A in the last couple weeks. Looks like they are sweeping through Ebay and E too.

If you are selling Disney items without a license you may want to rethink that asap. I guess there is a ton of counterfeit Frozen items on the market and they are going after them.

One of the A sellers got served a lawsuit since they sold such a high volume. A is freezing their money owed them as Disney says its theirs. And I suspect Disney is right and will get their money.

I am all for Disney protecting their brand but just thought some sellers might need another warning. I see so much Disney Frozen stuff on here its not even funny.

 

 

 

 

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@clarry100 wrote:

 

 

Her listings are all present loud & clear on ebay too including the Octanauts one.

So even ebay have not given her any grief in selling these items.

 

 


None of the selling platforms, like eBay, are likely to do or say anything, unless and until the rights holder files a complaint, because the venues don't ask for verification of licensed products, and wouldn't know who has or hasn't got a license to sell those kind of items. 

 

They tends to respond and take action immediately if they receive a complaint from the rights holder, though. The seller you mention sounds dangerous, IMHO, specifically saying things like "you don't need a license" is bad form when people could be taking her business as an example (obviously no one should, but a lot of newer sellers would probably think she knows what she's talking about). Dangerous to herself, too - there's no way I'd ever build a business on someone else's foundation - imagine doing that for years, building it to such a success that it's your sole source of income etc, and then one day not only does your business get instantly shut down for good, but you owe a significant chunk of money you no longer have to other people. 

 

You migh actually be quite surprised by the kinds of things you can and can't sell without risking ramefications, and how even celebrities are trying to cash in on things (in conjunction with preventing others from making a profit on it). Beyonce didn't like people selling items with 'feyonce' on them (in place of fiance), and sicced her lawyers onto a lot of E**y sellers, despite many people pointing out she didn't really have proper legal grounds, Katy Perry took similar issue after the whole 'left shark' thing, and I can't remember who it was now, but one singer trademarked a whole bunch of utterly generic phrases after using them in her lyrics (that shouldn't be alllowed. but it seems at least in the US, you can trademark just about anything you want if you have the cash). 

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Please someone correct me if you know I'm wrong, but my understanding is that you can re-sell goods that you've purchased from a licensed distributor/retailer. A quick search for Disney's Frozen gets over 28,000 results. I'm sure most of those are not from licensed distributors/retailers. They're from people who've bought the items in stores and are re-selling them.

 

If you weren't allowed to re-sell goods that you'd purchased from distributors/retailers on eBay, I suspect that the number of listings on eBay would just about halve.

 

Creating goods is another matter entirely.

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@everard6920 wrote:

Please someone correct me if you know I'm wrong, but my understanding is that you can re-sell goods that you've purchased from a licensed distributor/retailer. 


In general, that's true, the main issue is ensuring the goods are licensed to begin with, no matter where they actually come from - it's very easy to get products with Disney characters on them, the vast majority of the ones being sold direct by Chinese wholesalers are unlicensed, which means people shouldn't be buying and selling them, and are taking a risk to do so - I just searched for "Frozen necklace", and in the first page of 50 results, only 3 were verifiably licensed products. Many of the rest, I know exactly where they come from, and I know they're not licensed... One even has Frozen characters on the item and packaging, but the packaging says "The Snow Queen" - dead give-away of an unlicensed product. 

 

 

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