on 12-09-2013 10:02 PM
I would like to know why a buyer who has 337 feedback of which over 300 are negative is still allowed to bid,shouldn't they have been banned long ago.
on 14-09-2013 12:51 PM
I agree with you.
I have taught in schools and I can tell you one thing for sure. You need to have consequences for wrong doing.
The minute anyone sniffs the fact they can 'get away' with something, just watch that behaviour escalate.
A buyer who bids and doesn't pay and collects more than one strike should automatically be barred from any bidding at all for a set time. Maybe 1-3 months.
Sellers should still have the option to prevent them from bidding after that as well, if they wish.
There should be a clear consequence for non paying bidders and I am not convinced there is at present, by what I am reading. A false positive feedback is not, in my opinion, a consequence these people would care about.
14-09-2013 03:20 PM - edited 14-09-2013 03:24 PM
@springyzone wrote:I agree with you.
I have taught in schools and I can tell you one thing for sure. You need to have consequences for wrong doing.
The minute anyone sniffs the fact they can 'get away' with something, just watch that behaviour escalate.
There should be a clear consequence for non paying bidders and I am not convinced there is at present, by what I am reading. A false positive feedback is not, in my opinion, a consequence these people would care about.
in some cases, it is as if they collect them like trophies. Blocks as a default when a listing is created would put a stop to that.
14-09-2013 10:16 PM - edited 14-09-2013 10:17 PM
It would certainly be a step in the right direction.
But in addition, when non-paying buyers are reported and trust and safety can clearly see non-payment comments being left by sellers on mass my expectation is that their buying actvities should be investigated or suspended, no excuse not to - given the mission to create a safe trading place for all.
For the significant dollars I pay each month I expect to be proactively protected from these low life, money and time-wasters. There are just too many of them and they are growing in numbers.
Last month I had hundreds and hundreds of dollars stock unpaid for. I am tierd of it, and I am also tierd of low price stock & small turnover sellers sticking their hands up and saying it is not a problem for them, put your blocks in place, yadayadayada ..... of course it is not,a problem for those sellers, they don't sell enough items in particular markets at high prices and sufficient volume to be affected by it - well I do and I am sick to the back teeth of going through the unpaid process, over and over again... without any developments in dealing with these pests.
on 16-09-2013 06:10 AM
@springyzone wrote:I agree with you.
I have taught in schools and I can tell you one thing for sure. You need to have consequences for wrong doing.
The minute anyone sniffs the fact they can 'get away' with something, just watch that behaviour escalate.
A buyer who bids and doesn't pay and collects more than one strike should automatically be barred from any bidding at all for a set time. Maybe 1-3 months.
Sellers should still have the option to prevent them from bidding after that as well, if they wish.
There should be a clear consequence for non paying bidders and I am not convinced there is at present, by what I am reading. A false positive feedback is not, in my opinion, a consequence these people would care about.
Positive negatives do not stop non paying bidders....just like negative feedback won't
but they highlight that ebays NPB system does not work and also that ebay could not give a rat's about that fact and they would prefer to hide the huge festering lump under the carpet where they think nobody can see.
ie If those sellers did not leave negative positives and highlight the breakdown in the feedback system then this thread
would not exist...............
It has reached epidemic proportions in the vehicle section especially using the auction style format
..... search for 'no tyre kickers' or "relisted due to non paying bidder" in the body of the motors verhicle auction listings
copy and paste below of what appears to be the regular thing that many sellers include in their 'motors" listing search
(at a non refundable 22.95 a pop for an auction listing with a reserve...... ebay makes a tidy little profit at the sellers expense
whether the item sells or not)
Taipan Edge Buggy *Relisted*
Relisted due to Non Paying Buyer. Do not bid if you have less than 10 feedback.
Please ask permission from your Mum/Girlfriend/Boyfriend before you Bid.
Bid to buy not to look.
however the plethora of serial non paying bidders still exist and will continue along their merry non paying way
anonymously without sellers leaving signs for other sellers.
NPB Feedback left on an account IMO trigger most regular sellers (after a little investigation) upon discovery to open and
close disputes sooner rather than later.
non paying bidders should have
$$$ non paying bidder
feedback left automatically by ebay upon the closure of a NPB dispute in the sellers favour.
The lookers could look the blockers could still block and ther process would be much more transparent.
Sellers it appears tend to "follow the leader' once a serial NPB is identified. If this feedback
$$$ non paying bidder
was left by ebay instantly upon closure of the dispute then it follows that so would the bulk of sellers "follow
the leader"
....which means more participation by sellers in the NPB strike system and therefore creates a more complete
screening process.....
(another byproduct is it would be impossible for sellers to leave a negative positive because the space is
already filled with the generic ebay comment)