Online competition to Ebay?

Just saw this article today - FB are opening a section called "Marketplace".

May help some of us move some stock although it seems to be more suitable for pick up items.

 

http://www.news.com.au/technology/facebook-launches-ebay-rival-marketplace-in-australia-letting-user...

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The facebook marketplace is still in its infancy, but very promising.  

 

New selling features and tools being introduced at a steady pace, with minimal glitches (not without some probs though, but none I have struck that are not quickly resolved).

 

An increasing number of pages do roaring business.    Groups have their limitations, but again this area is only in its infancy.

 

Large businesses are increasing their presence to drive traffic to their websites and/or B&M via facebook.

 

Shame I can't hold the same confidence in eBays future.

 

I also think the investment that Facebook is making in new communication technology is also awesome.

 

 

Only good things to come for sellers in the next five to ten years on facebook and other social media platforms, existing and yet to be developed.

 

"In its second quarter 2016 earnings announcement today, Facebook revealed it now has 1.71 billion monthly active users (up 15 percent year over year) and 1.57 billion mobile users (up 20 percent year over year)"

 

Source: http://venturebeat.com/2016/07/27/facebook-passes-1-billion-mobile-daily-active-users/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@chameleon54 wrote:

I suppose it gets down to what you classify as a business. If it is simply an entity that buys stuff to onsell and make a profit, many of these platforms could sustain a business.

 

If the intention is to buy stuff to sell at a profit which MAKES REASONABLE $$$$ PER HOUR, then it is very difficult to run viable businesses on these other platforms. The huge advantage ebay has over notice board style sites is the inbuilt efficiency. In the majority of sales, buyers purchase items and pay for them without any communication at all. This is highly efficient and results in productive use of a sellers time.

 


I was actually thinking in slightly different terms, although when I referenced business, I was pretty much just thinking of a business like mine - list / sell items, often little to no direct communication with a buyer needed (size / profit margins were irrelevant to that). There are set-ups that will facilitate that kind of selling on FB, but they are third-party extensions (or apps, or whatever you want to call them) and usually cost $$

 

.... But, efficiency is kind of in the eye of the beholder business - Facebook would have the potential to be extremely efficient for service-based businesses, think freelance graphic designer as one example, since a page can be set up as the point of contact, network, advertising centre and portfolio.

 

I'm a little more hesitant than some when thinking about the future potential of FB as a marketplace though, particularly if they introduced a fully integrated listing and onsite purchase/payment system. Namely, because people didn't really join Facebook to buy stuff. I know while it's predominantly peer-to-peer, the popularity is pretty high, but if it became a genuine competitor to eBay (in terms of a fully-fledged marketplace), I suspect Facebook itself could lose some of its appeal, depending on how it's implemented. 

 

eg People do join eBay to buy things, and still get annoyed at all the spam and advertising from a site where you can pretty much only buy or sell things. They get annoyed at having to wade through countless listings for the same things and so on, so FB would need to work out how to maximise the marketplace without allowing it to intrude on the site's main or original purpose (JMHO). I know I very much dislike the targeted advertising that appears in my newsfeed, and the fact that I can't turn it off and so on, so I think they (Facebook) have a finer line to walk than a site that was always dedicated to ecommerce. 

 

That's also why I think if Pinterest play their cards right, they could seriously be the better option - there is a social aspect, for sure, but it's by and large a visual site, and has become the place where people share photos of the things they love, things they made (and tutorials for them), and link to things they want to buy... For a business like mine, where I could integrate all of those things with what I sell, I'm pretty much just sitting here waiting for the day Pinterest agrees with me about their potential. Smiley LOL

 

 

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@chameleon54 wrote:

I suppose it gets down to what you classify as a business. If it is simply an entity that buys stuff to onsell and make a profit, many of these platforms could sustain a business.

 

If the intention is to buy stuff to sell at a profit which MAKES REASONABLE $$$$ PER HOUR, then it is very difficult to run viable businesses on these other platforms. The huge advantage ebay has over notice board style sites is the inbuilt efficiency. In the majority of sales, buyers purchase items and pay for them without any communication at all. This is highly efficient and results in productive use of a sellers time.

 


I was actually thinking in slightly different terms, although when I referenced business, I was pretty much just thinking of a business like mine - list / sell items, often little to no direct communication with a buyer needed (size / profit margins were irrelevant to that). There are set-ups that will facilitate that kind of selling on FB, but they are third-party extensions (or apps, or whatever you want to call them) and usually cost $$

 

.... But, efficiency is kind of in the eye of the beholder business - Facebook would have the potential to be extremely efficient for service-based businesses, think freelance graphic designer as one example, since a page can be set up as the point of contact, network, advertising centre and portfolio.

 

I'm a little more hesitant than some when thinking about the future potential of FB as a marketplace though, particularly if they introduced a fully integrated listing and onsite purchase/payment system. Namely, because people didn't really join Facebook to buy stuff. I know while it's predominantly peer-to-peer, the popularity is pretty high, but if it became a genuine competitor to eBay (in terms of a fully-fledged marketplace), I suspect Facebook itself could lose some of its appeal, depending on how it's implemented. 

 

eg People do join eBay to buy things, and still get annoyed at all the spam and advertising from a site where you can pretty much only buy or sell things. They get annoyed at having to wade through countless listings for the same things and so on, so FB would need to work out how to maximise the marketplace without allowing it to intrude on the site's main or original purpose (JMHO). I know I very much dislike the targeted advertising that appears in my newsfeed, and the fact that I can't turn it off and so on, so I think they (Facebook) have a finer line to walk than a site that was always dedicated to ecommerce. 

 

That's also why I think if Pinterest play their cards right, they could seriously be the better option - there is a social aspect, for sure, but it's by and large a visual site, and has become the place where people share photos of the things they love, things they made (and tutorials for them), and link to things they want to buy... For a business like mine, where I could integrate all of those things with what I sell, I'm pretty much just sitting here waiting for the day Pinterest agrees with me about their potential. Smiley LOL

 

 


I agree 100% about Pinterest. My products are fun to look at, and each one is different. I also pride myself on my photos, so I recently set up a Pinterest account for my business, and made some boards. I'm amazed at the amount of people who are saving my pins. This hasn't translated into sales, and I don't know if it will, but I figured that it couldn't hurt to put photos of my products out there for as many people as possible to see.

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FB maybe good for direct marketing and pyramid schemes, Americans love those type of scams that suck out whatever savings those "wannabe rich" have.
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Around twelve months ago, we ran an interesting experiment. The wife was cleaning up a few surplus items clogging up the house. The items where a double bunk bed, some guitar effects pedals and a girls netball uniform for our local regional town team. She listed these on our local facebook buy sell & swap site which is pretty vibrant really, expecting them to sell quickly.

 

I had one of ebays 150 free listing offers at the time, so listed the same items on ebay. Suprisingly the netball uniform sold on ebay within hours to an interstate FIFO miner whose daughter was moving to our town with her mum. ( yes it appeared genuine LOL )

 

We had a few low ball offers on the other items from facebook buyers but no genuine buyers. The other items sold to local ebay buyers within a week. Result ebay 3, facebook nil and that was for mainly local pick-up items.

 

I,m not canning facebook as my wife finds quite a few good items on there, but with the system of waiting for other people who tag items first etc. we just dont seem to succesfully buy much there. I do buy a bit from Gumtree though and have more success with this system.

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Interesting.

We had a similar situation where we listed a few items on both gumtree, ebay & Facebook (not all at the same time)

wall unit. No interest on gumtree at $30. Got over $60 on ebay.

Bedroom suite. Sold for $120 on ebay (but a no show buyer). Ended up selling for $70 on gumtree after asking $100. Still regret giving in.

Bookshelf. Couldn't sell on gumtree at $50, got over $70 on ebay.

 

Not a flicker of interest on FB.

 

I think ebay sells better. The downsides are the fees & the worries about money back guarantees & so on.

More of an audience on ebay and there is more accountability. People know if they win they are expected to go through with it, they might jeopardise their account otherwise. Gumtree isn't a bad selling platform but you get many more people behaving badly because there are no consequences.

 

 

 

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I sell on eBay as well as on the Buy Swap Sell groups on Facebook, which is the basis for the new FB Marketplace, for 3 years.  

 

From my experience -

 

1. Different items do better on different platforms - theres not much overlap. BBS items are usually larger pick up only items, or small items with extreme low worth so not worth the postage, therefore next to no buyers for them on eBay. Items on Ebay are generally worth a little more, a little better quality (especially things like second hand clothes), and easily posted, and worth the postage.

 

2. They have two different audiences, and different audience / customer expectations.

 

 

I dont see Marketplace as competition to Ebay - they are two different things (at the moment). Marketplace is, however, a threat to Gumtree.

 

Also, the research in that article that says its a challenge to ebay is about customer buying habits... it doesnt take into account branding, target audience or the items being sold on the platforms.  Its like saying mcdonalds is a threat to fine dining, simply because they both sell food. Umm.. no.

 

Individual FB stores are a different thing - if Ebay combine these into marketplace (whichs seems silly, because Marketplace = Gumtree and FB stores = Ebay.. again,  different audiences, but I guess they will find a way to do it), Then that might affect eBay.

 

Also, marketplace is currently being inundated with spam... makes it too hard to find the genuine sale items.... they need to fix that before its a threat to anything let alone gumtree.

 

 

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