Paypal lowering fees from the 12th Feb

[harley_babes_hoard]

Next month we’ll be making some changes that we want to bring to your attention.

• We’re introducing a new tier of lower pricing for sellers with a monthly sales volume between $2,500 and $5,000. The rate for this tier will be 2.2% + fixed fee. • For sellers with a monthly sales volume of less than $2,500, the standard rate will be changed to 2.6% + fixed fee. We’ve also changed the standard rate for all other types of commercial transactions. • For sellers using Website Payments Pro and whose monthly sales volume is over $150,000, we have amended the rate for cross-border transactions to 2.5% + fixed fee. • We’ve clarified when our Seller Protection Policy does not apply. • We’ve made some changes to our Privacy Policy.

The changes will automatically take effect on 12 February 2015 and we have updated the Combined Financial Services Guide and Product Disclosure Statement, the User Agreement and the Privacy Policy.

[digital*ghost]

Ah, so it was my use of the word "unfair" that's causing problems.

Let me replace it with something a bit more inline with what I'm trying to say, then. 

"Unjustified"? That does have various nuances to it, so may be misinterpreted, how about "unwarranted". Yes, I think "unwarranted" is more suitable.

And yes, people have the obvious means to make all manner of presumptions about anything - my point is, presumptions tend to cause trouble, because they're usually biased and uninformed, and maybe my wording wasn't ideal, but I was trying to get the point across that such presumptions can't be substantiated with the kind of information available to the average PayPal user. 

[thecatspjs]

lol IMO your comments on others comments are more biased than I have ever seen from you TBH,

[digital*ghost]

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@thecatspjs wrote:

Some might think that is unfair that they have used paypal for years and years overtime and never had a dispute or claim from a buyer, whilst other johnny-come-latelys that list a few high-priced items that result in claims for each one - get lower fees.

Lol - which transaction costs paypal more ???

The automated electronic processing of funds or lengthy or complex disputes where paypal may have to fork out thousands.

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Come on now... High volume sellers have always received PayPal fee breaks, they've just introduced a lower tier so more mid-volume sellers will get a fee break.

Obviously people are assuming the increase for everyone else is paying for the decrease in fees for the $2500 -  $5000 p/m sellers, but just because the numbers match, don't mean without a shadow of a doubt that's exactly what's happening. 

[digital*ghost]

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@thecatspjs wrote:

lol IMO your comments on others comments are more biased than I have ever seen from you TBH,

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Then you are obviously not understanding where I'm coming from at all.

Bloomin' heck, I've never seen anyone suggest that simply saying people shouldn't make assumptions is biased. 

[thecatspjs]

Your posts seem very reminiscent of another when eBay introduced a raft of changes ... that even drove you to admonish them.

Your posts seem along those lines to me.  JMO as I have stated. 

[digital*ghost]

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@thecatspjs wrote:

Your posts seem very reminiscent of another when eBay introduced a raft of changes ... that even drove you to admonish them.

Your posts seem along those lines to me.  JMO as I have stated. 

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Well, if you're going to vaguely skirt around one thing, and say something I've said "seems like" something else that you won't even go the whole hog and point out explicitly, I see no point in continuing this.

I have clarified where I'm coming from, you (seem to) have ignored that entirely and decided my posts are how you interpret them. so.... bleh.

[thecatspjs]

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@digital*ghost wrote:

And yes, people have the obvious means to make all manner of presumptions about anything - my point is, presumptions tend to cause trouble, because they're usually biased and uninformed, and maybe my wording wasn't ideal, but I was trying to get the point across that such presumptions can't be substantiated with the kind of information available to the average PayPal user. 

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Presumptions synomyns - credible, likely, plausible, believeable, probable

[digital*ghost]

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@thecatspjs wrote:

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@digital*ghost wrote:

And yes, people have the obvious means to make all manner of presumptions about anything - my point is, presumptions tend to cause trouble, because they're usually biased and uninformed, and maybe my wording wasn't ideal, but I was trying to get the point across that such presumptions can't be substantiated with the kind of information available to the average PayPal user. 

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Presumptions synomyns - credible, likely, plausible, believeable, probable

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And your point is?

Honestly, what the bluddy hell? Just because something is credible, likely, plausible, believeable, probable, it doesn't for one second mean it's factual, correct, provable.

A likely or credible presumption is not necessarily an informed one.

Not in the mood to play word games, cats. 

[thecatspjs]

No game.

I am posting my opinion about your posts about others posts.

Simple as that.

I have yet to see a thread on a matter that did not have a level of subjectivity to it.

IMO your own posts or my posts are no more or less as subjective as anyone elses.

More generally, policy changes are most frequently levers that are used to achieve certain end goals - and frequently there are winners and losers through those changes.

With this policy change there are some losers. 

[digital*ghost]

I just wanted to say - sorry if I'm coming off as agressive. It's not intentional, I've had a long, annoying day and am extraordinarily tired, which makes me easy to provoke, especially when it seems I'm not able to make what I write understood the way I mean it. 

I shouldna be here in this frame of mind, so bowing out for a while.