Postage of fakes

[fixnwear]

Hello to all,

I have read many times on the boards that if the fake is susspected  that one doesn't have to send it back as it's illegal!

What a load of cods wallop

How does a recipient of a fake item thinks it got to him/her in the first place?

Through the post, in most cases. Australia Post delivered it OK!

Post office doesn't care/wouldn't know what is fake, all parcels are sealed - and besides, it's not their job to police that sort of thing.

Advice given to buyers  here is so misleading, a great cop out - not having to go to any trouble of returning someone else's property, fake or not - if full refund is promised or even already issued.

I have also spoken to PP - their attitude is the same.

If the buyer claims a fake item and doesn't have anything official to support that claim - they'll have to return it to the seller in order to get the refund. If the seller agrees, of course.

They also are not willing to act as a police - to determine what is fake and what isn't - nor they are in too much of a hurry to tell anyone to distroy someone else's proerty rather than to post it back - as some sellers want the item back even if it is a fake.

Then the rights owner can take it up with them, not the PO or PP.

The only thing that the PO told me it would worry them is people posting flamable or otherwise hazardous items/material.

And finally, if the item has to be returned to an overseas country, going through the customs - again, no problem at all, singular items, or small quantities get here - and they can go back just  the same.

Customs guys wouldn't give it a time of day - unless is a shippping container load! (Straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak)

[Anonymous]

Kept trying to post this link earlier. It's the latest AusPost has.

http://auspost.com.au/media/documents/dangerous-prohibited-goods-packaging-post-guide.pdf

[Anonymous]

http://auspost.com.au/media/documents/dangerous-prohibited-goods-packaging-post-guide.pdf

[Anonymous]

Copped a post flooding through all the failed attempts...lol

http://auspost.com.au/media/documents/dangerous-prohibited-goods-packaging-post-guide.pdf

[modestbods]

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@Anonymous wrote:

modestbods.

Your citation is not from AusPost, it's part of the Customs regulations.

Can you provide a web link to the AusPost regs you have claimed ?

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I tried for approximately two hours & posted my previous post over 10 times but it wouldn't stick. As I found out eventually (thanks to dg)  it was because I was trying to provide the Aus Post link that you are asking for which is a pdf link & so apparently won't stick on the boards, & instead causing the posts it's in to simply vanish (I've been told they may all reappear in the next day or two though, so that should be fun lol,).

Okay, so let's try this... you can find the link to it via this link http://auspost.com.au/general-terms-conditions.html

Just click on Australia Post Terms and Conditions (733kb) 

or else join the following together...

http://auspost.com.au/media/documents/AP-TCs-Sep-2014.  <<>>  pdf

Btw, I'm only slightly offended by your accusation that I falsely cited that info... besides, I'm sure you're big enough to admit your mistake & apologize for it now that you can verify for yourself that I'm not a **bleep**ing liar. 

[Anonymous]

I have tried to post this 7 times now...

http://auspost.com.au/media/documents/dangerous-prohibited-goods-packaging-post-guide.pdf

[fixnwear]

Hi modestbods, 

save your efforts ... none of the citations are worth the paper they are written on. In a practical sense.

Post Office master told me that  he doesn't recall in a living history that anyone has ever opened anyone's parcel to check the contents, and then further check and make sure that the item within is counterfit.

Also,  if you spot any fakes on Ebay, like Chanel - feel free to call their Sydney store and ask to whom to report a fake item - see what reception you'll get.

With all the legislations in place in the world - it doesn't seem to help any due to the great dis interest  by the bodies who should be interested - like the rights owners for a starters!

And getting anyone to give you in writing that the item is fake in order to satisfy PP is just about impossible - you are met with a straight out refusal.

And in turn, PP is not going to take your word for it - no matter how right you think you are  - so they ask you to send it back to the seller (only if seller agrees) in order to get a refund.

There could be some exceptions I guess, but they are very rare.

[modestbods]

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@Anonymous wrote:

modestbods.

Your citation is not from AusPost, it's part of the Customs regulations.

Can you provide a web link to the AusPost regs you have claimed ?

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I tried for approximately two hours & posted my previous post over 10 times but it wouldn't stick. As I found out eventually (thanks to dg)  it was because I was trying to provide the Aus Post link that you are asking for which is a pdf link & so apparently won't stick on the boards, & instead causing the posts it's in to simply vanish (I've been told they may all reappear in the next day or two though, so that should be fun lol,).

Okay, so let's try this again (lol i just tried it & the post didn't stick because I had accidently included the pdf link by copy pasting the title of the document which has the pdf link embedded in it)...

You can find the link to it via this link http://auspost.com.au/general-terms-conditions.html

From there, just click on the link for Australia Post Terms and Conditions (733kb)

or else join the following pieces together...

  http://    <<>>   auspost.  <<>>  com.au/media/documents/AP-TCs-Sep-2014.  <<>>  pdf

Btw, I'm only slightly offended by your accusation that I falsely cited that info... besides, I'm sure you're big enough to admit your mistake & apologize for it now that you can verify for yourself that I'm not a **bleep**ing liar. 

[modestbods]

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@Anonymous wrote:

modestbods.

Your citation is not from AusPost, it's part of the Customs regulations.

Can you provide a web link to the AusPost regs you have claimed ?

---

I tried for approximately two hours & posted my previous post over 10 times but it wouldn't stick. As I found out eventually (thanks to dg)  it was because I was trying to provide the Aus Post link that you are asking for which is a pdf link & so apparently won't stick on the boards, & instead causing the posts it's in to simply vanish (I've been told they may all reappear in the next day or two though, so that should be fun lol,).

Okay, so let's try this again (lol i just tried it & the post didn't stick because I had accidently included the pdf link by copy pasting the title of the document which has the pdf link embedded in it)...

Join the following pieces together...

  http://    <<>>   auspost.  <<>>  com.au/media/documents/AP-TCs-Sep-2014.  <<>>  pdf

Btw, I'm only slightly offended by your accusation that I falsely cited that info... besides, I'm sure you're big enough to admit your mistake & apologize for it now that you can verify for yourself that I'm not a **bleep**ing liar. 

[Anonymous]

I wasn't calling you a liar. It just appeared that your info had come from a customs site.
Coincidental Section numbers. I unreservedly apologise if you were offended in any way.
I had the same trouble posting my link ( which it appears is outdated but live...lol ).

http://****auspost.com.au/media/documents/dangerous-prohibited-goods-packaging-post-guide****.pdf

The damn thing appeared to post OK ( 7 times ) but kept vanishing ( as yours probably did ).

62.1.1 any article whose possession or carriage by post is prohibited by a law of the
Commonwealth, a State or Territory;

I am not so sure because actually owning a counterfeit item is not a against the law in Australia is it ?

We should attract the attention of an AusPost forum dweller.

[Anonymous]

I unreservedly apologise to you modestbods and I now stand corrected.

I have given up trying to post my link from the AusPost website but it appears that it's

outdated ( but live...lol )

sell, possess, distribute or import a good, knowing that the trade mark has been falsified or removed

I now agree with you absolutely as there are very few major global trademarks that are NOT also registered

in Australia.

Off topic.

PayPay are making legal recourse by honest sellers impossible
because they are insisting on the destruction of evidence.