on โ29-01-2020 04:18 PM
on โ01-02-2020 08:05 AM
imastawka, very surprised to see you make this comment as you usally point very valid things.
This is not one of them!
It wouldn't have mattered if I didn't buy any items - ever - there is no experience in shopping needed to apply the fundamental codes of behavious - honesty, realistic expectations and common sense.
on โ01-02-2020 08:41 AM
I,m a busy middle aged bloke. I dont have time to mend clothes, run to the shop for buttons etc.I expect many busy woman are the same. If an item has got faults, mention them, photograph them and then no problems. Everyone knows where they stand. But if I buy stuff that has damage I,m not told about, I tend to get grumpy pretty quickly.
on โ01-02-2020 11:29 AM
chameleon 54, yes of course, whatever revs your engine!
We are all individuals, some of us get cranky about everything that is not exactly so, some of us are much happier and easier going and also recognise the difference of what is worth of our time and agnst and what isn't.
Just for the record (again) I was talking about sellers who don't put much in the listing mainly as the "faults" are trivial, not easy to spot, items are cheaper (a trade off for getting them at a price), and mainly as they wouldn't have even taken any notice of these minor things, nor considered them important enough to write a saga about them!
And if you can't or don't want to stitch a button if you received something without it - nothing stopping you going to the shops, at least you can then see the item, count all the buttons, check all the seams etc.
โ01-02-2020 02:24 PM - edited โ01-02-2020 02:25 PM
@kitty-kat-kollection wrote:
Sooo...I was wondering, just out of interest, if these sellers are omitting almost all details of their items to avoid having these cases lodged against them. If they don't describe the item, then technically how can a buyer say the item was not as described?
That can contrinute to it, absolutely.
I started out selling clothes and provided as much detail as possible, and maintained that the more detail you provide, the fewer problems you would have, not only that, but if you're prepared to sell online, it's far better to cater to all the customers who buy in good faith than the few who don't....but that was well before we had the MBG here and any discrepancy between what the buyer expects and reality can = INAD. Defensive listing tactics are an inevitable response to the environment eBay has put sellers in, but it just creates new problems, IMHO.
If I still sold clothes, I suspect I also would be much less inclined to provide personal opinion / assessment of the item, because it can be so subjective, especially when it comes to sizing, fit and condition, as in there is no consistency to these concepts in clothing - eg, in my descriptions, I would include things like the weight and the feel of the fabric, how stretchy it was, the kind of fit the items were designed to have - as much as possible that can only be determined by having the item in hand. Condition descriptions of used items were always really difficult for me so I would actually describe what it wasn't rather than what it was (i.e. instead of saying "good condition" I would say stuff like "doesn't look perfectly new, but there is no damage, pilling, holes, loose buttons..." or whatever was relevant to the item).
Measurements are unfortunately really manipulable by how you lay the item out, and don't take into account how the item is supposed to fit (which is why tags will say "to fit bust XXcm, to fit waist XXcm" and so on), so I'm not surprised sellers here have taken to not including them.
on โ01-02-2020 02:33 PM
Tough selling clothes when competing against the 'corporate' op-shops nowadays. With sizing, run a tape measure across all the important variables and take a close up shot of the measurement. We don't rely entirely upon the garment label size, but do mention it.
"You're damned if you do - you're damned if you don't".
on โ02-02-2020 10:22 PM
No you're not insane ๐ That's exactly why they do it. Mind you I've had claims opened when selling things for 'parts or repair' because they didn't work?? AND instructed to accept the return. I didn't, dug my heels in and eventually won, but really? I witnessed a physical theft today, it was so sickening to see that in person. He was chased and caught but you can't really blame sellers for trying to protect themselves. Online theft is rife
on โ03-02-2020 01:22 AM
on โ03-02-2020 10:48 AM
โ03-02-2020 10:56 AM - edited โ03-02-2020 10:56 AM
@kitty-kat-kollection wrote:
I feel like literally writing "Dress. Might fit a size 6 to 20. Might not fit at all. May not even be a dress. Please don't yell at me. Bye!!!!"
I have been periodically tempted to just start using titles like:
25 x Smaller Than You Think Silver Unicorn Charms
10 x Subjectively Red Crystal Heart Pendants (May Appear Scarlett, Crimson, Cerise, Pink or Orange).
NB: Examples only, I do not sell either of these products
on โ03-02-2020 11:42 AM
May not even be a dress ๐๐ hilarious thanks for the laugh