What Are the Chances?

Sold an item on June 24th. I had no watchers on other items and when the buyer hadn't paid after 2 days I sent an invoice. Buyer has low feedback so I thought maybe they were waiting for one. By the 28th, I'd heard nothing and there was no payment, so I opened an UPI. On day 3 of the UPI I sent a message asking if she planned on paying for the item and that if she's changed her mind, that's OK, but she needs to let me know. If she hadn't paid by the time the UPI was closed, she would get a black mark on her account and her buying privileges could be restricted. I heard nothing back.

 

5 minutes before I closed the dispute, she paid. It was a Saturday, so I posted first thing Monday, which was July 4th. As I always do, I uploaded the tracking number into the order details. Tracking showed delivered on July 8. The My Post app also indicated it had been delivered and by that stage, I had no outstanding undelivered tracking numbers. I had already ended all my listings on all 3 accounts a few days before due to having to go away for a sick family member, so was pleased that everything was showing as delivered.

 

You can imagine my surprise when I received notification of an INR dispute opened against me. I double checked the tracking number, yes, it shows delivered at her local PO. My first ever INR. In fact, my first ever dispute! I responded to the dispute by uploading the tracking number. In the comment box I cut and pasted the tracking details off the AP website, showing the item as being delivered on the 8th and I also added a message to the buyer explaining that tracking is showing as delivered, blah blah blah, polite, polite, polite and said I look forward to hearing back from them. Nothing. Just like when she bought the item. Nothing.

 

I sent eBay a message this morning asking how I can close the dispute as the buyer is not responding. They replied within a few minutes and said yes, the tracking is definitely showing as delivered and arrived before my handling time was even expired, let alone the delivery estimate. They said I have done everything correctly and will be covered by seller protection. I pointed out that PayPal has blocked my account, even though I had more than enough to cover the disputed amount, so I can't pay for purchases I've made and I can see that eBay has tried to take their fees and failed.

 

They said I could escalate the dispute tomorrow. As in, ask ebay to step in and help. I said that when that happens, eBay will instantly close the dispute in favour of the buyer and refund them for an item they have received. I went into the whole spiel about it. I asked how they would recoup the money from the buyer after refund, because I would be very angry if she got to keep the money and eBay refunded me out of their pocket. They basically promised it would close in my favour.

 

So, after a very long winded message, what are the chances of me asking eBay to step in and help and the dispute being found in my favour? I actually wonder if she's opened the dispute on the wrong seller because I can see by her feedback she has bought quite a bit from China. I know she has got the item. She has a PO box and the tracking says it was delivered to her local post office. I do believe she's trying one on because that account only has 5 feedback. Maybe she thinks a dispute will scare a new seller to refund.

 

Has anyone escalated an INR dispute when tracking has showed as being delivered and had the dispute closed in their favour? I just have a bad feeling if I escalate, this woman will get away with it and encourage her to try it on with other sellers.

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I'm expecting her to escalate as soon as she can because I told her that as the tracking shows as delivered, she won't be getting a refund from me. If the tracking was showing as in transit still, I'd have no hesitation in refunding her. I am also expecting to get negative feedback. Even more so if eBay finds in my favour (which I'm not confident will happen). I don't care if she does. That account doesn't even have a yellow star yet, so I'd just write it off and start again with another one that's sitting here idle doing nothing. Although the frequency she appears to be on the computer, feedback time will be expired before she gets to it.

 

I loved the bit where she told me she'd never buy from me again. Guess what sweetheart, I'd already taken care of that, even on my other accounts she doesn't know about. Like that would bother me! Maybe she thought I'd go broke without her custom.

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She closed the dispute today. I think she realised that she wouldn't win. As predicted I now have a nice shiny red dot. I'll give eBay a call on Tuesday and see if they'll remove it given she admitted that the item was at her post office. I'm not confident they will, but stranger things have happened!

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Well, there you go. I replied to one of the emails I sent to eBay over the last week to see if they'd remove the feedback. I figured it couldn't hurt. They replied within minutes and they are going to remove it! It will be gone in 24-48hrs they reckon. I guess that's what happens when you approach them calm and polite, and keep reinforcing how grateful you are for their help.

 

It will be interesting now to see if buyer fronts up on the buyers forum complaining that her feedback was removed. I told her eBay would remove it (even though I really wasn't expecting them to!). Note to buyer, don't assume that a seller with only 5 feedback has no idea what they're doing. Hee hee!

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Good to hear - it's always a pleasant surprise when eBay backs a seller up and does the right thing. 🙂

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Will redo post.

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From this.......

 

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To this........in under 20 minutes!!

 

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GO ME!!!!!

 

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@digital*ghost wrote:

Good to hear - it's always a pleasant surprise when eBay backs a seller up and does the right thing. 🙂


tomorrow should be a public holiday, ok for sellers only

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@davidc4430 wrote:

@digital*ghost wrote:

Good to hear - it's always a pleasant surprise when eBay backs a seller up and does the right thing. 🙂


tomorrow should be a public holiday, ok for sellers only


Do we as sellers, seeing as though it's our public holiday, get double time and a half?

 

I know eBay don't read the forums, so no brown nosing going on, but I could not fault any of the customer service staff I dealt with. Each message I sent, including the first, was responded to in less than 10 minutes. Most of the replies weren't cut and paste either. I'm mostly shocked that once again, everything was sorted via messages rather than having to call.

 

I know there are plenty of eBay haters in the forums, but I believe in giving credit where credit is due.

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oh yes, definately double time and a half....

 

lets see, going on my sales the last week that'll be, um, nothing...doh!

 

i have no major complaints re ebay. yes theres a few glichy things and losing my free relists was/is annoying.

 

but my one call to customer service went well, they called me very quickly and sorted my problem.

 

having read so many horror stories i really didnt want to make that call, glad i did tho

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

@davidc4430 wrote:

@digital*ghost wrote:

Good to hear - it's always a pleasant surprise when eBay backs a seller up and does the right thing. 🙂


tomorrow should be a public holiday, ok for sellers only


Do we as sellers, seeing as though it's our public holiday, get double time and a half?

 

I know eBay don't read the forums, so no brown nosing going on, but I could not fault any of the customer service staff I dealt with. Each message I sent, including the first, was responded to in less than 10 minutes. Most of the replies weren't cut and paste either. I'm mostly shocked that once again, everything was sorted via messages rather than having to call.

 

I know there are plenty of eBay haters in the forums, but I believe in giving credit where credit is due.


you know what I think?  I think dave sorted it out.  He is very clever, and carries lots of weight around here.  Apparently, he is a mod AND works for eBay, and we know HE reads the boards.

 

edit:  I think I just saw dave on TV . . . . poolside at the Olympics . . . . . coaching our relay team!  Go dave!

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