When the hell did ebay get so expensive ( more so greedy ) 9.9 per cent for doing very little.

[posse2006]

 How can ebay charge such a high fee for selling an item, there not an austion house with an auctioneer, we do all the hard work and

they get to reep the rewards. I will no longer be using ebay to sell anything as you get similar results from using GUMTREE which is practically free. Thanks for nothing ebay.

[thecatspjs]

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@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:

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@thecatspjs wrote:

I prefer to keep listing and keep complaining

Spoiler

Always good to have your perspective in a thread Slr Sales 

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well then . . . . it's not for me to defend eBay's fee structures for the items you sell so that you feel better about paying them . . . . . . which would give you nothing to complain about . . . . . . . so I wont add anything more to my contribution in post #9   

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Not sure anything you could post can make me feel better about having to do much more work, to pay eBay much more, and that pays me less.

[gec2002]

While things are being explained perhaps someone can explain to me why a book that sells for $10 in a basic store BIN has FVF and paypal fees of $1.44 and a book that sells in the same store BIN for $249.00 has a FVF and paypal fees of $28.69

Is it

a.  The electrons that work on the cheap books are underpaid

or

b.  The electrons that work on the dear books are better educated (possibly have degrees) and get fat bonuses

or

c.  It's linked to the price of premix cup of coke costing about 8c

[thecatspjs]

Well I think its d. none of the above.

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@gec2002 wrote:

While things are being explained perhaps someone can explain to me why a book that sells for $10 in a basic store BIN has FVF and paypal fees of $1.44 and a book that sells in the same store BIN for $249.00 has a FVF and paypal fees of $28.69

Is it

a.  The electrons that work on the cheap books are underpaid

or

b.  The electrons that work on the dear books are better educated (possibly have degrees) and get fat bonuses

or

c.  It's linked to the price of premix cup of coke costing about 8c

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I'll say d.  where:

d. 9% fvf on both items and 30c + 2.4% PayPal fee on both

$10 book will have 90c fvf and 54c PayPal fee = $1.44

$249 book will have $22.41 fvf and $6.28 PayPal fee = $28.69

Fee schedule on both items is identical . . . . . and predictable.  The maths adds up perfectly.

For any future book you sell use a 9% eBay final value fee and use a 30c + 2.4% PayPal fee to check the fees charged.

[thecatspjs]

OMG I guessed right ...

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

let me say that for my calculations I only worked with the figures supplied for the fees on the two books.  I don't have a store, and the fvf for stores may or may not be 9%, but the figure of 9% worked for both book fee situations.

I looked at eBay fee calculator page and it quoted a 5c insertion fee and 9.5% fvf for a basic store which would mean an eBay fee of $1 on the $10 book, which would not work with a 30c + 2.4% PayPal fee as the total fees would be $1.54.  I'm also not sure whether basic store holders get a reduced PayPal fee structure.

[gec2002]

"Fee schedule on both items is identical . . . . . and predictable"

Correct never said they weren't but that doesn't explain why a flat fee structure isn't used because earlier we were informed tha "that we are paying for what they do, but rather paying to use their business model and ideas. We also pay to use their brand name"

So is their brand name worth more for a more expensive book?

PS I didn't include listing fees, I clearly stated FVF and Paypal fees but I will include listing in all future calculations to keep you happy.

[thecatspjs]

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@digital*ghost wrote:

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@thecatspjs wrote:

So Slr Sales .... that all sounds reasonable, but perhaps you could riddle me this - why do eBay charge me more FVFs for selling clothes compared to other goods ?

What additional benefits do I get, or additional work does eBay do, to justify moi being slogged with additional fees for selling in a category that is pretty hard yakka.

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I never got why they raised the FVF on clothing, either, plus all of my categories cost more to sell in as well (all fashion accessories, craft supplies etc). At one stage, the higher FVF may have been justifiable because we have the benefit of variation listings, and in some of my (higher FVF) categories, I can also 'enjoy' 0 or cheaper insertion fees on auctions... 

But then I remember stuff like media sellers have the same FVF rates (store holders), but they're somewhat compensated with 5c insertion fees on BINs after the free allocation is used....plus other categories have use of the variation format with lower FVFs, so who knows. 

A few years back clothing was the best selling item on eBay (taking the crown from CDs, a media category), I doubt it is now, but while I know few people buy CDs anymore, everyone near me still wears clothes, thankfully. o_O

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There is no rationale anywhere that I can see.  I think fashion would still be pretty up there as a good seller $$ wise. 

For what its worth I reckon that some sort of incentives should kick in at some point for being a very wonderful seller with happy customers such as moi (as they do in the US).   Like extra FREE AUCTION listings or something like that, something you can strive towards that is a real bonus, not a pretendy one .... (hint hint eBay via Lithium intelligence). 

[davewil1964]

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@k1ooo-slr-sales wrote:

let me say that for my calculations I only worked with the figures supplied for the fees on the two books.  I don't have a store, and the fvf for stores may or may not be 9%, but the figure of 9% worked for both book fee situations.

I looked at eBay fee calculator page and it quoted a 5c insertion fee and 9.5% fvf for a basic store which would mean an eBay fee of $1 on the $10 book, which would not work with a 30c + 2.4% PayPal fee as the total fees would be $1.54.  I'm also not sure whether basic store holders get a reduced PayPal fee structure.

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No they don't. If I sell a book for $10 I get charged 95c by eBay and 54c by Paypal. Not counting listing fees.

I don't understand the OP's question though. Commissions are usually charged on a percentage basis. I don't understand why eBay should be any different., regardless of the electrons used. Those same electrons could well cost eBay on a low value sale.

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@gec2002 wrote:

"Fee schedule on both items is identical . . . . . and predictable"

Correct never said they weren't but that doesn't explain why a flat fee structure isn't used because earlier we were informed tha "that we are paying for what they do, but rather paying to use their business model and ideas. We also pay to use their brand name"

So is their brand name worth more for a more expensive book?

PS I didn't include listing fees, I clearly stated FVF and Paypal fees but I will include listing in all future calculations to keep you happy.

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I misinterpreted your original post.  I thought you were struggling to understand the fees you were charged . . . . my bad!

I guess it just gets down to the simple concept that when you get more for an item you pay more in fees to eBay.  You are being charged a flat rate . . . . a flat rate % on the final value!  There used to be a stepped rate and I liked the stepped rate when it was in place . . . . . but in doing away with the stepped rate in favour of a flat rate fvf % I now pay less in fees because I don't pay insertion fees.  I used to only do auctions starting at 99c because that attracted the lowest insertion fee.  I can't remember what the insertion fee was for a BIN item at $299, but I am sure that with free listing and 9.9% I am paying a lot less in fees.