avoid defects - send money

Rather than refund money from the payment made why not just send money to the buyer. This would use a completely different transaction.

 

Should work til they change the rules AGAIN!

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I was talking with my Account Manager last week and there have been some problems with how defects are applied which I was told they are currently working on to try and fix the issues.

 

For partial refunds defects are not supposed to show but the system is not working correctly at the moment. Hopefully they will have it sorted out before the changeover next month.

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When I say my number of defects I phoned eBay because the reason on the dashboard stated "run out of stock or item sold to someone else". I asked where that came from because I don't have stock as such - I sell second hand items and new oddments - and when she checked cancelled trransactions, she aknowledged that the only reasons given for those were when people changed their mind or items didn't fit etc. The defects weren't from those, and I have no low dsr's for anything..

 

She then asked if I had given refunds for anything else other than cancelled transactions and I told her about refunding excess postage and the said that was what the defects were - if a refund was given (even partial) without a cancelled transaction , it would be a defect. As I said, The defects were removed, but I was told I would continue to accrue them if I kept doing it that way, and the only way to give my customers a refund for postage according to her (with free postage listings) was way too complicated for me. She said the only thing the defects could have come from was the refunds (without a mutual cancellation), and she understood that that was how the system worked.

 


I know that this is not everyone's experience, but this is my point. Different people are being told different things, and indeed it seems as if the system is not functioning uniformly. So I pay the extra fvf on the postage, fees on the Paypal transactions, and give the customer back what I think is fair. I have accrued no defects since I started doing it this way. If I needed to refund someone for a fauly item or similar, I would definitely do it via the whole cancelled transaction process though.

 

Marina.

 

 

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Your experience highlights exactly what I am saying about how eBay operates (or doesn't). I was told exactly the same thing about there being "no facility" for the removal of defects, or unfair dsr's. I pushed the matter, and have had both defects and an unfair dsr removed.

 

In my experience, an awful lot depends on who you get to talk to.

 

Marina.

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so in terms this is just another way of ebay forcing the free postage thing.

one wonders to oneself when is ebay going to relize that there rules are only giving more and more sellers a reason to stop or slow down on selling.

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yes but ambridge, or someone else, can you please confirm that the defect shows on the report against the right item number? I'm talking about on the detailed report.

 

No one is confirming this fact, all the are saying is they have 'defects'. Anyone? anyone???

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I have given partial refunds (about 5) and a full refund, none have counted as a defect.

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It's no good my running a  report because the defects were removed and I have no low dsr's - it was the eBay rep that told me what they were for, and as I had no low dsr's, and the few cancelled transactions were NOT marked as defects, they were the only things it could be for. I had 4 partial refunds of $10 each for overpaid postage and 4 defect strikes. All I had done was bring up the original Paypal transaction, click on "refund", write "partial refund for overpaid postage" in the message column, and send it off.

 

Marina.

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We had almost exactly this happen to us last week where a buyre purchased 5-items and selected Express Post at checkout.

The system billed her for 5 lots of express when all 5 items would fit into a single package.

So we refunded her thru PayPal for the extra 4 she had paid for. $42.20

We were NOT issued (well not yet anyway) any defects for this paypal refund.

The only thing that has happened is that the FVF on the postage was charged at what she had originally paid rather than after we had refunded.

I called CS about it. They agreed and could see the problem and agreed to credit the FVFs so that we only paid on the one lot of Express Post fees.

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I have done a couple of partial refunds recently and there are no defects showing as cancellations.

 

According to eBay this ID is defective though for cancelling a purchase when a buyer wanted an item shipped overseas. I know now not to select the reason for cancellation "buyer requested shipment to a country I don't post to" or whatever. Instead I have to select "buyer changed mind". If an item is listed as No International shipping and the block is in place for overseas addresses, why does the system allow buyers to then add an international address in checkout? And then when the buyer does not want to proceed with the transaction and the seller selects the appropriate reason for the cancellation, eBay labels them as defective! hmpf.

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Beach - no. Cancelled transactions do not show on the report beside an item number.

They appear on the main rating page beside 'Cancelled Transaction (no stock, sold to someone elseb blah blah blah). The number and defect % increases. You have to work out what it is for.

When you have never ran out of stock, the only 'cancelled transaction' figure went up by one as soon as a partial refund was made. It wasn't that hard to work it out.

Next time l made a excess postae refund, checked again - yeppers. Another cancelled transaction.

 

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