on 21-09-2021 01:00 PM
eBay Australia have made a mess of a combined shipping sale with several items. They have only passed on about 2/3 of the money and are unable to fix this in under 10 days! Every day I get some new time-frame (please wait 48hrs / the manager will contact you wait 24h / it will take 5-7 days etc). They acknowledge their mistake but refuse to pay me because "we are unable to issue the money as we would first need to replicate as to why the remaining amount was not issued to you". Does anyone have an opinion on the legality of this - holding my money, delaying shipping so they can debug their stuff-up? Also does anyone no how I can report eBay Australia to the parent company for their inappropriate behaviour? Does anyone know if this constitutes behaviour reportable to ACCC or will it take legal action to get anywhere.
on 21-09-2021 02:41 PM
No sorry that is simply wrong - eBay have this item on the "orders awaiting payment" list AND on the "overdue postage" list - they HAVE STUFFED UP - they know this they acknowledge this. Their chat people have advised there will be no penalty for delaying postage. I don't think you have read what I wrote carefully. You do get to withhold postage until eBay says they have your funds secured. My shipping is simply not relevant to this issue in any way.
on 21-09-2021 02:54 PM
It might be better to cancel the transactions (use problem with buyers address as reason).
This sounds like a real fiasco.
BTW, never heed the words of Customer Service as they are mostly useless and will tell you anything, whether or not it is true.
on 21-09-2021 02:59 PM
The first sensible reply I have received and probably the easiest solution! Customer service perhaps the most misnamed part of eBay.
I am just getting the impression that the majority of sellers are in awe / fear of the company (or working for it). Can't fathom this - It's just another corporation - as I said before, answerable the the law of the land.
on 21-09-2021 03:01 PM
@jellybirddesigns wrote:It might be better to cancel the transactions (use problem with buyers address as reason).
This sounds like a real fiasco.
I understand why you suggest that, but at the same time, the one person who has been forgotten in all of this is the customer who ordered the goods,
on 21-09-2021 03:03 PM
I'm in touch constantly - I certainly haven't forgotten him (even though eBay REFUSES to advise him of what they are doing).
on 21-09-2021 03:09 PM
@analog_cameras wrote:The first sensible reply
Oh you didnt like the idea of Judge Judy, she is good value, channel 10 at 3PM
on 21-09-2021 03:11 PM
Yeah - wrong jurisdiction unfortunately. Might have trouble enforcing her orders here.
21-09-2021 03:30 PM - edited 21-09-2021 03:34 PM
@analog_cameras wrote:I just seem to be getting the impression that everybody treats this company as a law unto itself - they are not they are just another company subject to the laws of wherever they are operating. I think you would find them happy to admit this.
It's not so much people accepting whatever eBay does without protest, and more often having not enough detail to troubleshoot, offer pertinent advice, or zero experience in the issue people relate. Anomalies are, well, rare occurrences - you're the first person to bring this issue to the forum that I know of, and may in fact be the only one who has ever experienced it in this particular way, and the tendency in those kinds of cases is to look for a logical explanation, something that was missed (or, in other words - find the user error), or refer back to other things that are known about what eBay can and can't do according to policy.
I thought cancellation and re-purchase may be an option, but at the same time, you can't refund money that hasn't been made available to you. I'm assuming what you're saying is that the buyer paid (and was debited) a total of around $360 for their order, but eBay has only credited $290, showing some items as being paid for and some as not. Cancelling the "unpaid" orders may or may not result in a refund of those particular items to the buyer, but I suppose it's better to try rather than wait for eBay to figure out what is going on.
Strictly speaking, I can't see this quite as ebay owing you money, I see it more as eBay owing the buyer money - at this stage, it is the buyer's money that has disappeared into the ether - imagine for a moment that the order(s) for the items never actually came through on your side. Or perhaps just the paid ones did...in that case, what would you tell the buyer if they contacted you and said "what happened to my order? I've paid for 5 items but there are only 3 showing?". You would have no choice but to refer them to eBay to chase it up, as you are not in a position to action anything. Your particular case sounds not too dissimilar, it's just that an order was partially created so you can see an attempt for purchase / payment was made, and this particular scenario is something that happens somewhat frequently. It's also a known issue on another site that like ebay, uses Adyen to process payments. Normally what happens is the debit remains pending for X amount of time, and then bounces back to the buyer, so if you haven't already, make sure you get them to check the payment status of all purchases on their side.
on 21-09-2021 03:59 PM
Yeah - just to clarify - the buyer purchase 7 items (4 singles and 3 multiples). If you total the single prices you get about $250 which (minus fees) is what eBay sent me. If, however you total the 4 singles and 3 multiples you get $360 which is what the buyer was invoiced and what the buyer payed. The problem is not that it is unclear what has happened, it is that eBay wants (understandably) to know HOW it happened and is putting the balance (call it mine or the buyer's doesn't really matter) on hold. There is no logic in their behaviour - they freely admit on more than one occasion that they stuffed up - they acknowledge that there is a payment to me pending but refuse to release it. There is no explanation as to how holding this payment facilitates an understanding of how it occurred - it is a knee-jerk, unintelligent and futile suggestion. Sure I could send the buyer 1 x each item but I simply shouldn't have to - eBay should release these funds and work out how it happened on their own time not mine not my buyer's.
We (or at least I) have an expectation of some intelligence with this organisation - it appears to have gone missing.
on 21-09-2021 04:16 PM
The thing is, an eBay CS' interpretation of events is probably just as good as anyone else's, and the procedure for dealing with an anomaly is probably made up on the fly, which is why you'll almost always get a different answer from an eBay rep on what is happening or why something in particular is or isn't happening - in most cases if they can't do what is being requested of them, their primary role is to placate, as well.
The ability to action something with regards to a payment rests on being able to access that payment, too, it may be that like yourself, they don't have the access or ability to action anything until they can figure out what will happen to the funds that were debited - to put it another way, would you send the buyer a full refund, or the order, unless you were secure in the knowledge that the entire amount they paid was being credited to you?
I'm not saying any of this excuse the handling of the issue thus far, and I know it would be significantly more frustrating for yourself and the buyer than it is for anyone at eBay, I'm more trying to provide further insight into the most likely reasons for eBay CS holding back on actioning something, or behaving the way they do.
I would however, consider asking the buyer to contact eBay instead, the response they get might be different again, and potentially more useful.