hiwhy does ebay take commission on shipping cost as I sell items for auction

why does ebay take a commission on shipping fees?. I have been told by ebay staff by phone to add postage onto price of item & tick postage free. All my items are auctions so if I started item off at .99 cents with postage at $14.80 The buyer would recieve item for nothing & it would cost me more than the item is worth. I don't mind paying commission for final valuation fee 10%. But ebay forced people selling into opening  pay-pal accounts. Pay-Pal   take their commission on total amount deposited by buyer which includes shipping costs. then ebay take their commission out of the total deposit (item final value sold & shipping costs). Do they expect the smaller ebayer members to compete with all the bigger companies that mark their products up when bought & add their propfit percentage plus shipping costs into the price of their items before selling at a fixed price. Example Myers, david jones, target all have postal account where they can send any item anywhere in australia for about $5.00 how can I being a smaller ebay seller compete with that. We the smaller ebay seller are getting charged commission twice on the same final value fee & shipping by ebay & pay-pal. Could you please look into this matter as it is unfair to be charged twice for the one total price by both companies.

thankyou

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

Perhaps you need to take your own advice.


About what? I know where my fees come from you was wrong on that I know how many items I have in my store you was wrong on that so far you have made 2 commnets both wrong

 

Want to go for 0 ouf of 3 and tell me what advice I need to take?

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@247newdeals wrote:

@lyndal1838 wrote:

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@davewil1964 wrote:

Especially paying for a store but only having 17 listings.


And once again you show how you lack knowledge but keeping on talking it clearly makes you feel important 


How is it lacking in knowledge to state that you are paying for a store with only 17 listings?   We can all see that you have a store so how many listings do you think you have if it is not 17.

 

And just for your information, just because I am not a seller on ebay it does not mean that I have no knowledge of retail selling.  Some years ago we had a chain of retail stores.


I expect a buyer to have no knowledge of how things work, on ebay, and you are no exception I have 17 different items listed I currently have 45 items listed it is usually higher than this but I am concentrating my energy on another account. Just because you assume something does not make it right and just because you can not work out what someone else is doing does not mean they do not have a plan. Also is has no relevance on the fact I pay the EBay fees not the buyer


And thereby lies the trap. Because even buyers only can have a better understanding than some sellers and understand that paying $20 a month for 17 listings is not a smart business strategy. When a non-store ID can list 40 per month with 3 auto-relists.

 

Admittedly, I don't sell much, but I don't pay for listings and this ID doesn't have a store. My store ID has enough listings to justify the cost, however, which yours doesn't seem to. Your money, but.

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@davewil1964 wrote:

@247newdeals wrote:

@lyndal1838 wrote:

@247newdeals wrote:

@davewil1964 wrote:

Especially paying for a store but only having 17 listings.


And once again you show how you lack knowledge but keeping on talking it clearly makes you feel important 


How is it lacking in knowledge to state that you are paying for a store with only 17 listings?   We can all see that you have a store so how many listings do you think you have if it is not 17.

 

And just for your information, just because I am not a seller on ebay it does not mean that I have no knowledge of retail selling.  Some years ago we had a chain of retail stores.


I expect a buyer to have no knowledge of how things work, on ebay, and you are no exception I have 17 different items listed I currently have 45 items listed it is usually higher than this but I am concentrating my energy on another account. Just because you assume something does not make it right and just because you can not work out what someone else is doing does not mean they do not have a plan. Also is has no relevance on the fact I pay the EBay fees not the buyer


And thereby lies the trap. Because even buyers only can have a better understanding than some sellers and understand that paying $20 a month for 17 listings is not a smart business strategy. When a non-store ID can list 40 per month with 3 auto-relists.

 

Admittedly, I don't sell much, but I don't pay for listings and this ID doesn't have a store. My store ID has enough listings to justify the cost, however, which yours doesn't seem to. Your money, but.


wow try to keep up I currently have 45 not 17 listings, I usually have more than that but I am currently concentrating my efforts elsewhere having a shop makes me more than 1 sale a month which MORE than covers the SMALL $20 fee even if I was wasting $20 a month (which I am not) it STILL would have no bearing on the fact I pay ebay fees NOT the buyer.

Serious you do not need to worry about MY stratergy just because YOU do not understand it do not ASSUME I do not. Stop worrying about if I make money on EBay I do well so lets move on from that because you do not need to know my plans and I want be telling you them but rest assured I will do ok

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@247newdeals wrote:

@lyndal1838 wrote:

Perhaps you need to take your own advice.


About what? I know where my fees come from you was wrong on that I know how many items I have in my store you was wrong on that so far you have made 2 commnets both wrong

 

Want to go for 0 ouf of 3 and tell me what advice I need to take?


You were wrong. Basic English 101.

 

Commnet, is that an internet service provider? Do you think they pay their own fees? NUP!

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Wow.

 

45 listings out of a possible 200. Only 44c per BIN listing. Well done.

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I currently have 176 items listed on my main account. Didn't pay for one of them...........and I don't pay the fees on any of them! Only a nong would pay the fees themselves and then complain about how much they are >_<

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At the risk of having everyone be mad at me.... Smiley Surprised Smiley LOL 

 

No, really just some general comments, because I get some points made on both sides. I'm not trying to give anyone a lesson, because I know everyone here has plenty of knowledge when it comes to eBay and selling etc (clarifying that to avoid coming across as condescending, which is not the spirit of my post, it's just that the argument is going around in circles and from purely an observer's stance, it looks like some basic points are being neglected in favour of continuing to argue). 

 

First, business, in its simplest form, usually means making a profit after all expenses are paid. If you make a profit by selling items to buyers, after all expenses are paid, then your buyer's payments are covering your expenses, no matter which way you break down the turnover.  Unless there is another arm of the business where you are generating / depleting capital from another funding source. (I have no idea whether that applies to the business strategy of anyone here or not, so I'll just go ahead and assume nothing, though just to newdeals specifically, you did mention that your prices off-eBay could be lower due to the fees, so it kind of suggests you have accounted for them in your item prices, even if it's not a very specific or exacting process).

 

Two key business strategies are low profit - high turnover, and high profit - low turnover (that's not to suggest there isn't any business out there able to sustain low profit - low turnover, or high profit - high turnover, but the first two are more common, and profit is profit - whether or not a particular model is sutainable depends entirely on what the profit is supposed to be sustaining, which is different for everyone). The point is, one is not inherently better than the other, they each have their own pros and cons. I personally have two aspects to my business, one is lower profit, hight turnover, which is great for cash flow, the other is lower turnover, higher profit, and that's what helps me in other areas, like expansion. 

 

Also, paying $20 per month for a store isn't automatically a waste of money for a low number of listings. It depends entirely on sales category and volume. 

 

 

 

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

@247newdeals wrote:

@lyndal1838 wrote:

Perhaps you need to take your own advice.


About what? I know where my fees come from you was wrong on that I know how many items I have in my store you was wrong on that so far you have made 2 commnets both wrong

 

Want to go for 0 ouf of 3 and tell me what advice I need to take?


You were wrong. Basic English 101.

 

Commnet, is that an internet service provider? Do you think they pay their own fees? NUP!


sorry being an orphan I left school at age 11 I also suffer from mild dyslexia and have to teach myself most things in life sorry my English is not perfect but I fail to see what that has to do with EBay fees or because you are wrong it seems like a good idea to change the subject again

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@davewil1964 wrote:

Wow.

 

45 listings out of a possible 200. Only 44c per BIN listing. Well done.


and once again a statement with NO point yes I can list more and later on I may pmslol serious I know you THINK you have a point but can you just say it rather than making pointless statements

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

I currently have 176 items listed on my main account. Didn't pay for one of them...........and I don't pay the fees on any of them! Only a nong would pay the fees themselves and then complain about how much they are >_<


yes we have established you do not like paying for things you spend time hunting for boxes rather than just buying them cool you save money but I value my time more than a few cent. You wait for free listing to get your items up rather than paying a small fee to make sure you can list items without worrying about finding free listing offers once again I value my time. Even though you have a very large profit margin you still think a buyer should pick up ebays fees well I do not and personally i doubt if the fee where not there your buyers would see any difference in the price they pay I will let you think they would but come on your the person who check an extra 20% on top of what you think is a fair price for BIN 

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