threat with negative feedback unless I pay $90

the item in question :

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221803226987?euid=911074e8b4ad46c78dcb76280368533e&cp=1

 

basiclly, I put colour options too simply, I put white/light green/light blue in the options. But I included 2 pictures with the "white" set with pure white sheets, you can clearly see the quilt color is more towards "creamy" instead of 100% pure printing paper kind of white.

 

The buyer receives the item, and said the item description is "white" whish is wrong and misleading, and said she would NEVER purchase or want a cream coloured quilt set, like the ones in the photo. She said she saw the photos, but assume the photo color varys from screen to screen, she belived the white option quilt should be 100% pure printing paper kind of white, instead of the photo color.

 

I offered full refund, and also cover return postage. She refused. She wants to keep the item.

I offered 10% discount, which is $18.00, and let her keep the item, she refused.

I offered $30 discount, and let her keep them, she again refused.

 

She insisted on keeping the item, and ask me to send her $90 via paypal, otherwise she will "have no choice to leave a negative feedback".

 

I was being very honest, and let her know the exact costs from my end. "

1) CNY340(standard 3 pc) + CNY70(2 european cover) = CNY410, with currency rate of 4.8 (When we imported, it is actually 4.66 right now). the quilt alone cost 410/4.8=AUD$85.42,
2)To ship the item from China to Sydney, it cost US$15 per set, which is around AUD$20.00
3) Shipping cost from us to your address, AusPost regular parcel AUD$19.75
4)Partial refund does not qualify us to receive a eBay final value fee refund, so we would still be paying eBay for $180*8%=AUD$14.40
5)We would also be paying PayPal transaction fee for the $90 dollar we received from you after 50% partial refund, which is $0.3+$90*2.6%=AUD$2.64
This sums up to a total expense cost in our end for $142.21"  

(**this doesn't even count storage rent/bills/my time in.)

I told her I can not sell at such a huge loss.

TBH, my store is a tiny tiny store, I don't make that much money, this loss actually mean a lot for me.

 

The buyer think the item alone, with currency rate of 4.66, it would cost AUD$87.98 only.

And the shipping, both national and Auspost, and ebay/paypal charges is none of her business. I should be more than happy to send her $90.

 

I continuously ask her to open a refund case with eBay, and send the item back for a full refund, I told her countless times i will cover the return postage. She said NO. She is defently want to keep the "Never purchase or want a cream quilt set", and demand me send her $90 or she will leave a negative feedback.

 

I have ran my tiny shop for over 3 years, this is the first time I faced with a negative feedback. Tried to call eBay, they said they can not force the buyer to return and ask for a refund. The buyers gonna do what they like. And they also can not gurantee they will be able to remove the negative feedback.

 

I'm very upset right now, I've put a lot of effort to keep my 100% postive feedbacks.Man Sad

 

 

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Re: threat with negative feedback unless I pay $90

Why oh why did you leave the followup feedback.

The buyer has mentioned a paypal claim in the feedback and that is grounds for getting it removed entirely....but they will not remove the followup.

Now prospective buyers will see that ebay has removed a feedback as it will stand out like a sore thumb.

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onleme
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report to eBay, this is illegal, and nothing short of extortion.
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Report her to ACORN (see previous threads re online fraud).  Also let buyer know you have reported her to the online fraud squad and she should expect to be hearing from them in regards to her threat of extortion.

 

Australian Cybercrime Online Reporting Network ... The ACORN allows you to securely report cybercrime incidents which may be in breach of Australian law.

 

http://www.acorn.gov.au/

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comcol
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Despite what the Pro-Ebay trolls tell you, contacting Ebay will do nothing but upset you further and waste your time. If the buyer makes a threat or posts negative you will never have it removed without unbelievable proof of blatant exortion. And ONLY if it was sent to you via Ebay messages.

Even then it is only 50/50 that Ebay would act upon it. 

Unfortunately, with the way Ebay is now setup you are at the mercy of small percentage of dishonest buyers. Even honest buyers who make mistakes in their purchase actually cause your account damage. Not through their fault but through the stupidty of the Ebay system now. IE. Something as simple as a refund because buyer purchased the incorrect item now affects your rating. 

 

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all those messages were sent via ebay messages, I guess i'll have a try later when i have time to call them.

 

I'll let you guys know whats the outcome.

 

Smiley Indifferent

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vega what's up with you? whos pro ebay.
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I totally agree she is an unreasonable buyer.

The fact she has a disabled son is neither here nor there. It doesn't mean she never leaves the house & in any case is not your concern.

 

As I said, I would not refund a single cent to this woman, I would rather have a neg than 'resolve' it by letting her get away with extortion.

 

You can't do more than offer her a full refund/postage if she returns the product. She just wants to keep it with a discount and that is not on.

Never mind, if you are on ebay long enough you're sure to run into some real ding a lings, I know.

 

But I guess in future just tweak your ad with clear labels etc and you should be right. Well, we can hope.Smiley Happy

 

 

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

Why oh why did you leave the followup feedback.

The buyer has mentioned a paypal claim in the feedback and that is grounds for getting it removed entirely....but they will not remove the followup.

Now prospective buyers will see that ebay has removed a feedback as it will stand out like a sore thumb.


Lyndal, that's not true.  I've had fb removed before along with f/u comments with one quick phone call.  I think it would be well worthwhile for the OP to chase ebay to have the fb removed on grounds of extortion.  

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It annoys the heck out of me when people pull out the disabled story. It gets my back up very quickly. People are faceless names on eBay, not our problem if they have a disabled child. How do you even know she's telling the truth? Could be yet another excuse to get you to comply. Do as the others suggested,  give her nothing. Good luck with it all.

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I'd kop the neg take it on the chin and move on.

 

Most buyers are great. Some are a pain in the ass and are not worth the time of day. This one falls it appears into the latter category.

 

One neg is no big deal.

 

 

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