Anyone else in Australia had an absolute gutfull of sellers located in China, faking being here?

[satisfaction4you]

You know the ones i mean. Those decietful and lying sneaks that put our flag up in thier ad thumbnail.

The same mongrels that show up in Australia only searches?

Those time wasting folks who claim the stock is in a SYDNEY warehouse and it will arrive fast.

The same folks who put a tracking number on that PROVES it has to come from China first.

The sellers who are even the most sneaky , well they know not to do what i just said because they will get busted.

So what they do is provide an Australia post tracking number as late as they can, then YOU wait, wait, wait a bunch more.

Finally the item shows up at the senders post office in Sydney, (AFTER A PLANE OR BOAT RIDE FROM CHINA) usually about a fortnight or more after YOU PAID for it, whereby it then commences it's Autralian leg of it's journey........

.........generally taking ANOTHER week, thanks to the COVID situation.

So by the time you recieve it, because of the lies, you end up waiting about 3-4 weeks, sometimes more  for an item LISTED AS IN AUSTRALIA..

You know the ones i mean, the ones that don't even have it in the Australian mail until AFTER it was supposed to arrive at your home?

That's bad enough i guess. BUT what really, really irritates me is the fact that despite EBAY CLEARLY BEING AWARE of it,

NOTHING IS DONE ABOUT IT?

IN summary..... some sellers are DISHONEST AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED, EBAY is either unwilling or INCAPABLE of fixing the

problem at this time?

BE VERY SURE TO READ ALL NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ON YOUR SELLER BEFORE YOU BUY........

Because in the end that is the only chance you have, everyone else involved is making money off you and couldn't care less it seems?

[imastawka]

Saw the yelling and stopped reading.

What about the sellers that are registered in China, but genuinely have warehouses with stock in Australia?

They might be hard to pick, but reading the feedback comments will tell you if they've posted from China or not.

Not all Chinese registered sellers are lying about location

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[springyzone]

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@satisfaction4you wrote:

SIMPLEST SOLUTION WOULD BE BAN SELLING FROM COUNTRIES OTHER THAN WHERE YOU ARE LOCATED.

Ie; seller LISTED as located in China CANNOT sell products listed as "in Australia",

In order for that product to be sold it MUST be listed by a seller located in AUSTRALIA.

That may solve the issue AND see employment in OUR economy.

HOW ABOUT EBAY FIXES THE PROBLEM?

It is CLEARLY possible to fix.

Why aren't thay?

MONEY.

Thats y.

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I would agree that one fix would be that if a seller is listed as eg in USA, any item they list should show as 'dispatched from USA'.

There should not be the facility to list dispatch as from another country.

That's pretty much how it works on Etsy, you know where you stand as far as item location.

I agree with you that if a seller in eg China, owns or operates a warehouse here in Aust, then one of the Australian workers at that warehouse should be doing the listing, not the owner.

These steps would not necessarily cut out all problems. For example, with the book I bought, it arrived via Aus Post, posted in Sydney, which is exactly where the ad had said the item was located. But it was as obvious as anything the seller had had it shipped to him from overseas first as it took a month before it was posted on to me. Mind you, the ETA was a month, which was a give away as post doesn't take a month from Sydney to Melb in normal times.

That seller was receiving a hiding to nowhere though because of his delivery time frames, which is fair enough. These days you can't pretend you have something in Sydney and then justify not posting it for a month, even if you push your handling times out that far. Many customers don't like it. 

On the whole though, I think items being automatically listed as in the country of seller's registration would stop a lot of the problem.

I know people say ebay China is a law unto itself but if ebay is a US company, surely they would have the ultimate say over what programs the system is run on.

[*tippy*toes*]

Why should the owner of the eBay listings get a warehouse worker in Australia to do the listings? That would mean they would have to pay them even more, and lose more of their profits. Plus, the warehouse worker could alter settings and divert the payments to themselves, and the owner would get nothing. A logistical nightmare and not an option for 99.9% of sellers. Remember, people can't even trust their own family to do the right thing, without throwing an employee in the mix. Would you trust a stranger to list and sell your items? I thought so.

I mentioned in another thread about a recent Aramax (Fastway) delivery. Mr Tippy purchased an item on the Friday, from Melbourne, to central NSW. I looked at his purchase history, and the item he purchased, and the seller was registered in China. I pointed that out to him and said don't be surprised if it takes 4 weeks to arrive, as it's a Chinese seller, so probably coming from China, regardless of what the listing says. He wasn't worried about that, as it wasn't something he needed urgently.

How surprised do you think I was when there was a knock on the door on the Monday (4 calendar days later), asking to sign for this parcel? The ad said the item would be posted from Melbourne, but knowing what I do from hanging out here, I called bulldust. The seller clearly did have a warehouse in Melbourne. Not only was the Chinese based seller telling the truth, he had a super fast delivery from Fastway!

Why should that seller be punished for the actions of others? As someone else said, not all Chinese sellers lie about location.

[padi*0409]

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@gypsyharlot wrote:

this is a quote from one seller tippy toes who doesnt go under their seller account, "As I am not a business, I can sell whatever I like, and break all the rules in the book, and consumer law can't touch me." pretty disappointing.

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You just love misquoting people don't you ?

Tippy's actual words were :-

"If you had worked in business, then you would know that consumer law doesn't apply to non business sellers. As I am not a business, I can sell whatever I like, and break all the rules in the book, and consumer law can't touch me."

[*tippy*toes*]

Geez harlot, give it a rest will you. You are starting to sound like a very childish broken record. 

Maybe sellers can't take you seriously because of your username.

[springyzone]

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

Why should the owner of the eBay listings get a warehouse worker in Australia to do the listings? That would mean they would have to pay them even more, and lose more of their profits. Plus, the warehouse worker could alter settings and divert the payments to themselves, and the owner would get nothing. A logistical nightmare and not an option for 99.9% of sellers. Remember, people can't even trust their own family to do the right thing, without throwing an employee in the mix. Would you trust a stranger to list and sell your items? I thought so.

I mentioned in another thread about a recent Aramax (Fastway) delivery. Mr Tippy purchased an item on the Friday, from Melbourne, to central NSW. I looked at his purchase history, and the item he purchased, and the seller was registered in China. I pointed that out to him and said don't be surprised if it takes 4 weeks to arrive, as it's a Chinese seller, so probably coming from China, regardless of what the listing says. He wasn't worried about that, as it wasn't something he needed urgently.

How surprised do you think I was when there was a knock on the door on the Monday (4 calendar days later), asking to sign for this parcel? The ad said the item would be posted from Melbourne, but knowing what I do from hanging out here, I called bulldust. The seller clearly did have a warehouse in Melbourne. Not only was the Chinese based seller telling the truth, he had a super fast delivery from Fastway!

Why should that seller be punished for the actions of others? As someone else said, not all Chinese sellers lie about location.

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Hmm, I have no problem with sellers from overseas having a listing that sells to Australia, but if the goods are in China, the location should say China.

As for having a warehouse here. That to me would imply they probably have some sort of manager over here or someone in a supervisory role at least. I do know what you mean about the risks of employees doing the wrong thing, but I think the bigger the business, the more an owner has to outsource some of the work. There used to be a boardie on here, forget the name now, but I am pretty sure she was working for someone selling pipes?

And I am sure the actual owners of eg peters of Kensington or Coles don't do the listings, they would delegate.

It probably depends on the size of the business.

I am not saying the present situation is an easy fix, but it does need fixing. I also suspect ebay is very aware of the issue, which is one of the reasons why they have floated the idea (so i was told by a seller) of taking on the job of warehousing seller stock themselves , a la Amazon I suppose. Whether that will happen or not I wouldn't know, but it shows that ebay is considering changes of one sort or another.