on 21-09-2021 07:49 AM
What if anything can be done to encourage sellers who use cheap but atrocious couriers like CouriersPlease and Aramex (previously Fastway) to use more reliable couriers even if they cost a bit more ?
The last 4 items I bought were returned to the seller supposedly because supposedly they could not be delivered despite the fact i have a shop which is open 8.5 hours a day . Then I have to go through the time wasting process of organising a refund and trying a different seller .
It always seems to be Fastway or CouriersPlease who are involved when these problems occur.
on 21-09-2021 03:23 PM
Yes couriersplease are probably now worse than fastway . I tried to send something with them myself and 2 weeks later it still hadn't been collected so I used Australia Post instead . Never got a refund of course.
Surely sellers must get sick of giving refunds and copping bad feedback because they have used useless couriers.
on 21-09-2021 03:30 PM
PS. it would also be a good idea leaving positive feedback for bad sellers, it doesnt help other buyers, and just gives the seller a better feedback score
on 23-09-2021 09:01 AM
I've run a business - and still am.
Sugar was referring to this breach of ebay policy - left for a buyer
A TROUBLE MAKING, TIMEWASTING, NON COMMUNICATING NON PAYING INTERNET CLOWN EMBOLDENED BY EBAY POLICY OF NOT ALLOWING NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FOR BUYERS
If the buyer reports it you could get a slap.
Why give them a positive dot to add to their score? Better to give them nothing.
on 29-10-2021 10:51 AM
I agree with you missbelz15.
Couriers should not return as undeliverable package that they sort to deliver outside of normal business hours. They should in those circumstances attempt delivery again. It is unreasonable to expect people to hang around the office on the chance that a courier my arrive unless pre-agreed.
Ebay should require that sellers indicate the delivery company they use in their listing. Couriers are not all the same and so this differentiation indicates a difference in service being provided and therefore it impacts price/value being offered. Not to list the courier, provides sellers the opportunity to "bait and switch" since buyers expect a reasonable service.
It should not be an additional burden on buyers to work out the courier of the seller and create additional delays to their buying process. To put the burden on the buyers is relying on them taking a risk in order to buy, out of an attempt not to spend additional time working out the details. Any seller employing this attitude and tactic is not genuine and should not be provided an opportunity to sell via Ebay.
Ebay need to step up to the plate and ensure transparency in what is being offered by sellers.
on 29-10-2021 11:40 AM
It occurred to me eBay should have an extra posting option which might at least make sellers consider the effect on their feedback ratings.
There's STANDARD POST (ie Australia Post)
and then they could add this option:
SUBSTANDARD POST (couriers)
😀
on 29-10-2021 12:22 PM
@yanni_tammy wrote:I agree with you missbelz15.
Couriers should not return as undeliverable package that they sort to deliver outside of normal business hours. They should in those circumstances attempt delivery again. It is unreasonable to expect people to hang around the office on the chance that a courier my arrive unless pre-agreed.
Ebay should require that sellers indicate the delivery company they use in their listing. Couriers are not all the same and so this differentiation indicates a difference in service being provided and therefore it impacts price/value being offered. Not to list the courier, provides sellers the opportunity to "bait and switch" since buyers expect a reasonable service.
It should not be an additional burden on buyers to work out the courier of the seller and create additional delays to their buying process. To put the burden on the buyers is relying on them taking a risk in order to buy, out of an attempt not to spend additional time working out the details. Any seller employing this attitude and tactic is not genuine and should not be provided an opportunity to sell via Ebay.
Ebay need to step up to the plate and ensure transparency in what is being offered by sellers.
This whole argument is a bit of a joke really, how many non Ebay sellers do you ask to tell you which courier they are using, do you not buy from them for the same reason.
I have about 7 parcels coming this week, well I hope today anyhow, and all bar one is not AP, and you don't find out until the seller sends through tracking details.
The majority of non Ebay online sellers I have dealt with don't use AP, and have the same issues, but hey lets blame Ebay for the wows of the world.
29-10-2021 12:32 PM - edited 29-10-2021 12:36 PM
@yanni_tammy wrote:
Ebay should require that sellers indicate the delivery company they use in their listing.
For the most part, they do.
There are 41 domestic services that sellers have to select from when listing an item, only 3 of those don't specify a carrier (standard parcel delivery, express parcel delivery and freight).
Many of these just display as "standard postage" in a listing but there's a little "see details" link next to that which will show the selected service / carrier if one of the aforementioned generic options hasn't been selected - here's an example.
That aside, it's all very well and good for people to sit here and say "ebay should do this, sellers should do that, couriers shouldn't do whatever", and have those things all cater to the specific preferences of someone, but the thing I notice is that no one ever thinks about why it isn't done that way, or why sellers / ebay / couriers don't operate according to they way one person thinks they should, or how it can all be implemented and what effect that will have on other things - it's always "I would like it to be this way, therefore it should be that way".
The vast majority of sellers do not deliberately inconvenience their buyers, or persist in using sub-standard services to ensure fewer and fewer people want to buy from them over time. This is like the complete opposite of the goal of most people in business.
Most sellers using the generic options do so because it provides some other more important convenience to the majority of their buyers, like the ability to provide automatic postage discounts and the like. Most sellers use the tools they have to address pain points - without question, sorting out postage rate issues on every single order is a far bigger pain point for sellers than the occasional buyer frustrated by the service provided by a carrier.
Buying online is a two-way system, wanting to only ever be a passive participant but still have every single need and expectation met 100% of the time is unrealistic.
on 29-10-2021 12:43 PM
@digital*ghost wrote:
The vast majority of sellers do not deliberately inconvenience their buyers, or persist in using sub-standard services to ensure fewer and fewer people want to buy from them over time. This is like the complete opposite of the goal of most people in business.
This is a very valid point, and if a seller had consistent issues with one particular courier they would stop using them, because it reflects badly on the sellers reputation, plus could cost them $'s.
The problem here is that you only hear from the handful of complainers, who may have had an issue, you don't get a post every day from all of the successful parcels delivered by these so called bad delivery companies.
I Just received 3 on time, on schedule, efficient delivery's from one of the so called ''cheap but atrocious couriers'' (OPS words), yet I am still waiting after about 3, 4 and 6 weeks respectively from the one everyone advocates'. Maybe I should start a thread everytime that one fails to deliver on time, or stuffs up.
on 29-10-2021 12:46 PM
For the most part a courier looks for the business name when they are in a business zone.
If you have not provided the business name in your checkout details and your shop does not clearly display the business name, you run the risk of them turning around and returning the package.
Unfortunately the courier's get a small slice of the delivery fee and can't be hanging around trying to decipher or locate shops if the information is not clear as day
on 29-10-2021 04:00 PM
@e_purchasing wrote:
If you have not provided the business name in your checkout details and your shop does not clearly display the business name, you run the risk of them turning around and returning the package.
And half of the retail stores dont have street numbers as well.