on 12-07-2018 11:40 AM
Be aware ebay is wrongfully charging 10% GST on the postage cost at checkout when buying from an international seller when buying on ebay Australia.GST should only apply to the item and NOT the postage costs
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on 26-09-2018 09:25 PM
Thanks Countess.....it would appear that the 25%-40% still applies.
I wonder if the exchange rate fluctuated suddenly when your pearls arrived here?
Or is it possible that it was after 1st July so Customs decided to add the fees because it was a large amount.
Or my previous thoughts.....someone made a mistake.
on 27-09-2018 12:34 AM
Well and truly before the 1st July - by some months!
The exchange rate - well, I know it's about as stable as a rocking horse on quicksand, but I am sure it didn't go as wide and wild as it would have needed to in order to make the item cost go over $1000.
Let's put it down to someone in Customs having made a mistake. I can certainly remember my surprise at being charged by them.
on 19-10-2018 08:08 PM
on 19-10-2018 08:56 PM
And erroneous.
on 06-11-2018 11:33 AM
Ebay is not a postal service GST is already charged by Australia Post so postage has nothing to do with ebay as they don’t manufacture the stamps or employ someone to deliver the item
on 06-11-2018 04:14 PM
@jeds123 wrote:Ebay is not a postal service GST is already charged by Australia Post so postage has nothing to do with ebay as they don’t manufacture the stamps or employ someone to deliver the item
Correct. Sort of. eBay don't apply GST to sold item prices either. Domestically; imports are different.
eBay do, however, levy fees on the sale and postage costs, ie the total transaction, and charge GST (as they are legally obliged to) on those fees.
on 22-11-2018 11:31 AM
Yes you are correct, GST is a goods and services tax but it should only be applied to goods and services consumed in Australia. GST can be applied to the goods that arrive in Australia (as they will be consumed in Australia) but postage is not consumed in Australia therefore the ATO has no real right to charge GST on postage. The postage in most cases will already include taxes for that country of departure for which you cannot claim back therefore it results in double taxation. I am pretty sure someone will challenge the ATO on this decision sonner or later.
on 22-11-2018 12:26 PM
Sheesh.........................postage is a SERVICE.
And I'm certain that anyone challenging that with the ATO will be laughed at for being a numpty.
on 22-11-2018 03:09 PM
@wasou_94 wrote:Yes you are correct, GST is a goods and services tax but it should only be applied to goods and services consumed in Australia. GST can be applied to the goods that arrive in Australia (as they will be consumed in Australia) but postage is not consumed in Australia therefore the ATO has no real right to charge GST on postage. The postage in most cases will already include taxes for that country of departure for which you cannot claim back therefore it results in double taxation. I am pretty sure someone will challenge the ATO on this decision sonner or later.
If you are so sure the ATO is wrong why leave it to "someone else" to challenge the ruling?
Be proactive and start the ball rolling. I am sure there will be numerous lawyers falling over themselves to take your case.
on 22-11-2018 04:46 PM
@wasou_94,
Rights ... well, there are rights that we are accustomed in this day and age to think of as being inalienable.
Philosophical musings upon rights and laws
In the western world, we generally think of rights as including the right to live, the right to do so in freedom, without torture; the right to sufficient and nutritious food; the right to education; the right to medical care; the right to be able to buy and sell property; the right to conduct business; the right to a defence in law; the right to marry or not marry as one pleases; and so on.
In China, the rights of the individual are not as centric to the general consciousness, which is more focused on social responsibility.
The rights of a government should (and I'm making a moral judgement here by using the word "should") be based upon natural moral law, with regard to social ethics for communities. But another person can disagree and, if s/he has the power and authority to do so, can eradicate such rights under government, setting new laws based upon whatever considerations that government may please.
What some will consider rights may conflict with law in some areas. But then, humans do not agree and have not agreed upon what rights one has; hence there are yet philosophers and campaigners and activists and dreamers, the world over. But - and I may be wrong - I doubt that GST on overseas postage is one of the great burning eternal questions.
Under Australian law, it is now lawful (and indeed, required by law) for Australian consumers purchasing low-value goods from overseas to be charged GST upon both the item cost and the shipping cost. There's always been a lot of confusion about GST in Australia, with some putting forward the argument that postage in Australia doesn't have GST slapped on top of it, or second-hand goods being exempt from GST, and such-like arguments.
In fact, postage in Australia does include GST. It's just that we're probably not consciously aware of it, because (of course) the postage cost is GST-included. It must be GST-inclusive because of the way in which the legislation set up how prices must be displayed by Australian businesses. When we buy from overseas sellers where the low-value imported goods GST is payable, we can't help but be aware of it, because the shipping/postage price is (naturally) GST-exclusive, since the GST is only applied once the transaction is established to require the GST to be charged. (That is, buyer's address established to be in Australia; total cost of the order established to be below $1000; goods not being purchased by business registered for GST for business purposes, etc.)
Re second-hand goods -