Gift Card Nightmares!

I have an unbelievable story to tell here. I like buying Gift Cards on eBay because you sometimes get them at a nice discount. I rely on the eBay Money Back Guarantee, which appears prominently under the Buy button on gift card listings (I don't rely on PayPal with gift cards, because I know PayPal explicitly excludes gift cards from their buyer protection policy). In the small print, eBay does exclude "intangibles", but items sent by registered or trackable mail cannot be defined as intangibles.

 

This last month, I've been stung 4 times buying gift cards:

 

1) CARD ARRIVED WITH $440 MISSING CREDIT

Bought a $500 Coles gift card, but when it arrived it only had $60 credit. The PIN was still covered up. Turns out that the Seller had put a photo of the card number on the listing, so someone had taken the number, executed a brute force attack on the Coles gift card website until they got the PIN (Coles should stop this, you can execute unlimited tries with the PIN on their site, or could as of when this happened), then the thief had cloned the card with a magnetic strip reader/writer, and used $440 credit at Liquorland in SA (I am in QLD, seller in VIC).  Fortunately the seller was very nice and refunded me, and they took it up with the police, so this never became a PayPal or eBay claim.

 

2) SELLER USES ME FOR A CHEAP LOAN

Another seller sold me a $230 card and simply never sent it. 2 weeks later she emailed me "sorry, there is no crdit on that card and I have to refund you". The paypal refund was "pending" for 6 days, then failed. I wrote to seller asking for immediate refund. She then refunded me properly. The only explanation that fits is that she needed some money over Xmas, an interest-free short term loan, so sold a fake card to get it!

 

3) SELLER SELLS ME CARDS THAT NEVER ARRIVE

Another seller sold me a $400 Woollies card that simply has not arrived. It was supposedly sent by registered mail. Numerous attempts at getting the registration number for tracking purposes did not meet with success. I did get one email, via gmail, saying "I am so sorry for the problems with your purchase. I am looking into it now and will get back to you very very soon." I heard no more (that was 2 days ago). Ebay case opened, waiting for seller response, and no response after 2 days.

 

4) SELLER SELLS ME $1500 BUNNING GIFT CARDS, NO TRACE

Last week I bought about $1500 worth of Bunnings Gift Cards from a seller with a seemingly good feedback record. I was immediately given an Auspost Platinum Express Post reference number (next business day delivery), but 3 days later the number shows no activity on the Auspost site, the seller is not responding to messages, and it seems to have gone missing! I called Auspost and they say they have no information on that tracking number and that the sender must contact them...

 

Note that these purchases all happened more or less in the same time period, around Xmas and New Year, so I am now **extremely** wary of buying gift cards again on eBay.

 

I have yet to test whether the eBay Money Back Guarantee looks after me. I've been a member for 15 years and spent tens of thousands of dollars through eBay, so we'll see how they look after me. I would not have thought items sent via registered post, and clearly not sent (no tracking), could be written off as "intangibles". And there are legal implications to putting the "eBay Money Back Guarantee" logo under the "Buy" button on a listing, I am told (my son is a lawyer). So we'll see.

 

Comments welcome...

 

 

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@PAYPAL wrote:

We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your favour. We were able to recover $1,535.83 AUD, and this amount has been credited to you.


 

That's it, it's all over now and I can move on. Won't be buying another gift card on eBay again.

 

Thanks to everyone who made positive contributions to this thread. To the haters, eat my shorts.

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I thought Gift Cards were exempt from Paypal Returns ?

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Please re-read my post. I said that PayPal does not cover gift cards, but the policy is different on eBay.

 

eBay does not cover "intangibles", but despite searching, the definition of "intangible" is impossible to find on eBay. I did find this:

http://www.ebay.com/gds/Intangible-Services-/10000000006383073/g.html

 

I should add that I was able to open a Money Back Guarantee case (on the one case I tried to), so that is proof (of a sort) that they are covered. I suspect that if the cards actuallty arrived and were missing credit, that may be more problematic, because you have had your "tangible" goods delivered, but the credit "intangible" is missing.

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They are as the OP said. That's why the OP is using the ebay guarantee.

 

And Mark, as I understand it, you are receiving a card, so not an intangible.

That policy relates more to electronic downloads etc.

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Sorry Mark.

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I don't know, it smells to me.Smiley Indifferent

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Smells like what? Smiley Surprised

A very unlucky buyer?

 

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I'll keep this thread updated with outcomes. Thanks for all comments
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Lets just watch.Smiley Happy

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I know you had a look Smiley Happy

I'm not in the mood to make rusty comments & be yelled at again tonight.

Buyer beware with gift cards i guess.

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