on โ22-05-2016 09:18 PM
If this message said - "Do you want to buy this item from a Seller in Australia?" - I would be fine with it. I buy from Sellers who might not be Naturalised Aussies yet or might be from overseas. All I want it a quality product at a good price, a fair price for postage and packaging and sent in good time. To me this runs very close to discrimination. What next? Do I only want to buy from Women? Or only Men? A certain age group?
Perhaps I am too sensitive but I try to reverse things to see how a potential Seller would feel if they were culled from the Selling Arena because they are not Aussie. I would be hurt and rather indignant.
If no-one else is uncomfortable with this I will just continue to ignore it (which is what I am doing now).
THOUGHTS????
โ23-05-2016 07:08 PM - edited โ23-05-2016 07:09 PM
Definitely not, I think it is a long overdue improvement. Until this was introduced, when I ticked the box in the search filters for Australia, nine times out of ten the list I was looking at wouldn't change one bit, there would still be masses of overseas items at the top of the list because eBay considers that setting to mean I want to see items that SHIP TO Australia. I don't. I want it to show me ONLY iems from buyers who actually are located in Australia. It should not include all the overseas sellers who incorrectly list their locations as Australian addresses, or use a warehouse in Australia to buypass the location criteria while the product is actually being shipped from overseas. I for one am tired of that and will be saying yes to the new question every time.
It has nothing to do with discrimination, it is pure logistics. If I buy a product from Sydney or Melbourne, I expect it to arrive (relatively) promptly via Auspost or Australian courier, not in 3-6 weeks and not with overseas markings. Furthermore, if I have an issue with a product, I want to know that I will be able to return it quickly and easily, and without having to pay overseas postage costs, because while it may cost $1 for an overseas seller to post to Australia from their country, it most certainly does not cost $1 for me to send it back. Lastly I believe in buying Australian and supporting Australian businesses. If I can't get what I want here, then I will consider if I want it badly enough to buy from overseas.
Having said that, I consider an Aussie seller to be someone who lives here and operate a business here and pays taxes here, regardless of their ethnic background. I don't discriminate, I won't buy from Aussie sellers who drop ship from overseas either, and if they misrepresent the location of the item, I report it.
on โ23-05-2016 09:05 PM
How did you think that ebay could discriminate?
All ebay knows is your name, address, phone number and DOB.
How would this be enough information for them to decide whether you are Australian or not?
Foreign sounding name? Block them as not Australian?
Male or Female? Not a good indication as many names are used for both genders. Block 'em just in case?
Yes, I think you are super sensitive to a problem that does not exist.
on โ23-05-2016 10:34 PM
@lyndal1838 wrote:How did you think that ebay could discriminate?
All ebay knows is your name, address, phone number and DOB.
How would this be enough information for them to decide whether you are Australian or not?
Foreign sounding name? Block them as not Australian?
Male or Female? Not a good indication as many names are used for both genders. Block 'em just in case?
Yes, I think you are super sensitive to a problem that does not exist.
I know plenty of people who are super sensitive to problems that don't exist. It makes me angry. They get offended on behalf of others. I got called a filthy racist by multiple work colleagues because I said the word black in front of my African colleague. Apparently it's racist to say the word, regardless of the context. I was referring to a pair of black shoes. I was told quite bluntly that I should have called them dark shoes. What the? Dark shoes could be black, blue, brown, green, red, or multiple other colours.
You can only imagine the reaction when we were talking about sunbaking and getting sunburnt and I asked her how she knew she was sunburnt. It was a genuine question because I wanted to know. She saw it as a genuine question and happily answered. She said " my skin hurts". Makes sense! I got shot down in flames because they were all getting offended on her behalf, even though SHE wasn't offended. I asked her later if the question was offensive and she said absolutely not.
The annoying part is, she is allowed to say the word white and it's not considered offensive or racist. Nor was the question she asked not long after moving here. She asked, if so many white people still look down on black people, why do they get sun tanned so they look like a black or brown person?
I'm so sick of having to tip toe around for fear of offending someone. I know what's offensive and what's not. I just wish others did.
on โ23-05-2016 10:45 PM
I know what you mean Tippy.
I would be interested to see what would happen if my OH and I decided to sell on ebay if ebay was really discriminating on the basis of nationality.
We both have the same surname (of English origin so very much white Anglo-Saxon), we live at the same address, have the same landline number, use the same bank and the same paypal account.
I was born in Australia, he was born in Canada and is a permanent resident....has lived here longer than he lived in Canada and/or the USA.
So would I be allowed to sell and he would not? How would ebay even know he is not Australian?
on โ23-05-2016 11:14 PM
Maybe if his avatar was a picture of a Canadian flag with a caption "Proud to be Canadian". Besides, he probably wouldn't count because he has an English sounding name, so would be OK, regardless of where he was born or lived. However, if his name was Mahommad and he was born in Bankstown, or Li Yang and was born in Cabramatta, that would be a totally different story! It would be assumed they were not Australian.
Jokes aside, there is NO WAY they can tell where someone was born. I don't recall having to mention my birth location when I joined up. As you said, all they know is where you live now and that's all that counts.
on โ24-05-2016 05:50 AM
OMG! new ebay rule, everyone has to supply a DNA sample when joining up, back dated to 1890
on โ24-05-2016 10:22 AM
โ24-05-2016 10:35 AM - edited โ24-05-2016 10:36 AM
I'd like to know if he has read them all.
I don't recommend a book unless I have.
on โ24-05-2016 10:40 AM
heres the new ebay joining policy booklet,
on โ24-05-2016 10:41 AM
I doubt if anybody in the world has read David's recommendations, Amber