on 19-09-2018 10:14 PM - last edited on 20-09-2018 06:49 PM by gewens
Hello,
I purchase a ‘trail camera’ that came with a 12 month warranty and the camera has stopped working after just 6 months, it had been used for only a few weeks prior and the seller refuses to answer any of my messages ?! I did receive one reply asking what was wrong of which I replied outlining the problem along with a couple of picture and now nothing ?? I’ve tried several times since to contact the seller but they never reply even offering a video showing the problem and or to return the camera for the person to claim on the warranty through their supplier but still nothing ??
Is there anything I can do to get the seller to reply and to honour the 12 month warranty as if you offer it you should be held to it ?? If anyone has any suggestions on what I can do it will be very much appreciated !?
Fingers crossed that I can get a result or it’s $80 down the drain or thrown in the rubbish !?
’Thanks’ in advance and regards,
Mick...
on 27-09-2018 09:58 PM
This same camera is sold here in Australia ,I’ve asked if the seller would pass on the suppliers details but I get no reply !! Seems like the question I asked is to hard to answer !?
on 27-09-2018 10:00 PM
@micks_joint wrote:We learn by our mistakes so I’m just going to take this one on the hip pocket and move on !? I’ve managed to change the review I left so the next ebay buyer gets a look at the update and doesn’t waste their time and money like I have !! ‘Thanks’ for the tips and assistance !!
Um presume you mean you've left follow up feedback that is highly unlikely to be noticed by anyone.
on 27-09-2018 10:05 PM
I’ve purchased items from Aussie andUK sellers and then received a parcel direct from Hong Kong / China so it’s not a given that the item is any better than buying direct from an international seller !? I’ll just cop this one on the chin and move on !?
on 27-09-2018 10:15 PM
@micknnicki,
It's not an issue of a cutoff at our borders in terms of good customer service. There is, however, a cutoff at our borders in terms of Australian law and enforceability of consumer legislation. Quoting: "If the seller is based overseas, there may be practical and legal difficulties in enforcing your consumer guarantee rights against an overseas business."
Major brands such as Swiss Diamond, Emile Henry, Maxwell Scott, etc., will of course stand by their products and will accept returned items that haven't lasted, replacing those items. There may be relevant issues in terms of country in which the items were purchased; for instance, I buy Emile Henry from either the European or US range because the colours and range differ from the (much more limited) Australian range, so if I ever had a problem with one of their items, I'd have to post it back internationally and have the replacement sent to one of my forwarding addresses... but I've never had any problem with Emile Henry products and don't anticipate having any in the future. (Au contraire - I'm adding more (in burgundy / grand cru) all the time.)
Manufacturers of big brands (particularly electronics) that are purchased from overseas and then go kaplunk or pffffft are a diffierent issue again. Many of them explicitly make clear that warranty doesn't apply if the item is a grey import/parallel import. People who buy, for example, a sound system from an overseas seller, when the sound system could be purchased from an Australian seller (authorised seller who obtains the sound systems from the local distributor), are risking NO WARRANTY on the item. Of course the reason for making that grey import purchase is that the item is going to be cheaper than buying it locally. That's one of the trade-off issues. (For that matter, consider electrical safety standards!)
on 27-09-2018 10:20 PM
@micks_joint wrote:This same camera is sold here in Australia ,I’ve asked if the seller would pass on the suppliers details but I get no reply !! Seems like the question I asked is to hard to answer !?
(From https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/sales-delivery/buying-parallel-imports)
If you're asking for the Australian supplier/distributor, "the local manufacturer is not required to help you". Also, "You can contact the Australian manufacturer of the product but it may refuse to provide you with a remedy if it did not give permission to the seller to sell the product in Australia."
If you're asking for the overseas supplier/distributor, "If the seller is based overseas, there may be practical and legal difficulties in enforcing your consumer guarantee rights against an overseas business."
on 27-09-2018 10:24 PM
@micks_joint wrote:I’ve purchased items from Aussie andUK sellers and then received a parcel direct from Hong Kong / China so it’s not a given that the item is any better than buying direct from an international seller !? I’ll just cop this one on the chin and move on !?
If you have received a parcel direct from Hong Kong/China, you may have purchased from a Chinese seller who SAYS that s/he is located in Australia or has a warehouse in Australia. Words are cheap. If you're buying on eBay, check the seller's feedback profile to check where the seller is registered. Many times the answer is China or Hong Kong or Malaysia or somewhere other than Australia, in spite of the item location being misrepresented as being in Australia.
It's also possible that the seller from whom you bought is in Australia, but s/he is dropshipping. In that case, you are buying a parallel import. Do your due diligence. "If you are unsure whether you're buying a parallel import:
If the item is a lot cheaper than the price from an authorised seller in Australia, assume that it's a parallel import unless you have assured yourself that it's not.
on 28-09-2018 12:27 AM
No, I’ve editted the review I left about the product that will be visable every time someone looks at this trail cam !?
on 28-09-2018 09:44 AM
Oh dear, you have edited the review you left rather than the feedback?
You do realise that your poor opinion of your seller is going to taint every seller of that camera even though you have never dealt with them.
You really should aim your displeasure at the seller who you did deal with, not every seller of the item.
on 28-09-2018 11:43 AM
The problem is ebay won’t let you name and shame any seller with negitive input, I tried many different reviews pointing out the seller and the problem but I had to whittle it down to what you see in the review !! I would rather have others not purchase this camera going by any feedback I left that was uploaded before I really used the product !! There are other seller with other cameras so it’s a benefit to them if people read my review and pass on this camera !?
on 28-09-2018 11:58 AM
You have to be joking.....of course buyers can leave negative feedback for sellers.
Any negative information in a review is going to impact on ALL sellers of the product, whether it is your intention or not.
Just because you had a problem with a seller of that camera it does not mean that all sellers are going to behave in the same way....and there is always the potential for an item to be a lemon. The best brands have lemons and it is how the seller handles it that is the point of a review.
You are tarring all sellers with the brush that should be used for just one seller.