Item not received case

pangatp
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Hey, I recently purchased some batteries from a seller and shipping was Standard Postage (Australia Post Parcel Post Parcel + Signature). The estimated delivery date came and gone so I opened a case of item not received. The seller then added tracking information with Australia post in the case which was for a totally different suburb to which I live which is my shipping address. Obviously the seller has either shipped to the wrong address or is giving shipping information for someone else purchase for mine. Now the seller wont reply in the case and it tells me If you don't hear back by Feb. 1, or if there's a problem, you can ask us to step in and help on that day. It is now the 1st Feb and all I can do is send message to seller or close the case. I have no option to ask ebay to step in. Could this be a loop hole this seller is using by adding tracking information even though it has nothing to do with my order to prolong and kill the process of the item not received case? Any advise, help would be appreciated. Thanks
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sorry to hear of your experience with this transaction.

 

May I ask a few questions?

 

What state are you in? 

What was the seller's handling time? 

What date did you buy the batteries? 

What date did eBay estimate say they should arrive? 

Did the seller give any estimates of delivery time? (eBay estimates can be fanciful at times and DO NOT take into account Public Holidays, they still see these as business days)

 

The reason I ask these questions is because your answers will help me frame a suitable response to your opening post.

 

 

 

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There you go with your comments you just confirm the loop hole the seller is using by supplying a non legit tracking number.

 

And if your a seller I would never purchase from you.

 

Its nice to have confirmation about this scam and others see that this could happen to them 😄


I understand it can be frustrating (to say the least) when you don't receive an item, and when the tracking information provided shows what can be considered an anomaly, but you're actually making a few presumptions here.

 

My intention to making this post is not to argue with you, it is to provide some further insight into how these cases are intended to work, and the possible reasons why the seller is (rightly or wrongly) not providing further assistance.

 

I'll start with actually opening a case.... I am a seller, and I will say that while I do know that for buyers opening a request is the simplest, easiest way to alert the seller to an issue and I tend to look past the method, on the flip side, for many sellers this is a new and less desirable form of communication. Many won't even see it as communication, but rather the equivalent of opening a PayPal dispute with no prior communication, something sellers are used to viewing as suspect action, to be perfectly honest. You can disagree with that take on it, but disagreeing with it won't change how a lot of sellers react to the notifcation that a request has been opened. 

 

The next issue is the accusation of "non legit tracking number".

 

Here is what a seller needs to provide in order to have a request closed in their favour - I have highlighted the most relevant point.

 

If a buyer reports that an item hasn't been received
You're protected from losing a case if you send an item within your stated handling time and provide valid tracking information before you or the buyer asks us to step in and help.
Tracking information needs to include:
A delivery status of "delivered"
The date of delivery
The recipient's address
Proof of signature, for items with a total cost of $750 or more

 

 

This means that the seller has most likely provided valid proof to eBay that the tracking number is for a package that was addressed to the delivery address provided by you - the delivery status showing a different suburb is an Australia Post issue, not a seller issue. 

 

If you consider that, then try to see this from the seller's perspective for a moment, from where they sit they have more than likely shipped the item to your address, can see it shows "delivered" on the tracking information, but then with no prior communication, a request is opened claiming non-receipt. 

 

I believe you, but I can also see that you haven't given the seller very much to base belief on - you may not like to hear that, but I am just trying to be frank and hopefully help you get the best outcome if a situation like this ever occurs again. 

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Thats a load of **bleep**. I gave my home address as delivery addresss....   Ebay can check and see my delivery address when making the order...

 

Ebay can check that... but because this dodgy seller has submitted false delivery information the buyer pretection is thrown out the window.

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Thats a load of **bleep**. I gave my home address as delivery addresss....   


What I am trying to tell you is that the seller needs to prove to eBay that they sent the item to the address you provided. It can not show an address that differs from the one you provided. 

 

The tracking information online does not necessarily reflect the address that is on the package, that is why I said it is an AP issue. 

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Im sorry to seem to get aggressive to your reply but everyone seems to think its my fault and lake of communication thats caused the problem. Thank you for your insite and encouraging words.

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Im sorry to seem to get aggressive to your reply but everyone seems to think its my fault and lake of communication thats caused the problem. Thank you for your insite and encouraging words.


pangatp, can you go back and look at my previous post and provide some answers to my questions so I may make a reply that may make sense.  I don't want to make assumptions and post a rubbish answer based on eBay policy, I want to reply with facts provided by you.

 

I am trying to help you, but if you don't want my help then just say so, I will not be offended.

 

Thank you

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@pangatp wrote:

Im sorry to seem to get aggressive to your reply but everyone seems to think its my fault and lake of communication thats caused the problem. Thank you for your insite and encouraging words.


It's ok, as I said I know how frustrating these situations can be - my best suggestion now would be to try and communicate directly with the seller, which can be either through the resolution centre or in standard eBay messages. 

 

Let them know that you understand the item was shipped and shows as delivered, but that unfortunately it wasn't delivered to you. Since the tracking has a 'delivered' status, as you are the intended recipient, you would be able to contact Australia Post to lodge an inquiry - I'd also notify the seller of this, and request that they also contact Australia Post, and/or provide as much assistance as possible with the inquiry. They may understand the situation a little better, and hopefully provide help or further options to resolve. 

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You purchased Lithium batteries. If you are interstate from the buyer, they would have to be sent by road. They can't go by air. EBay's ridiculous estimates don't take that into consideration. Weekends also count as business days as far as ebay is concerned. Therefore, they will probably take a bit longer than other items to arrive.

 

Estimates are just that, an estimate. They are not called definites. Did you know that the seller has no control over how long something takes to arrive? Thankfully my buyers are decent people and they contact me via ebay messages, rather than going for the jugular by opening a dispute if there's a problem. Did you know that eBay can read the messages between you and a seller? Therefore, your reason for opening a dispute sounds more malicious than anything.

 

I hope all this angst is worth it and that you get your refund for $3. Welcome to a lot of people's speshul lists.

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My advise, if you lose the case, give the seller a negative. They may have a response to your negative, at least you are letting other buyers know this seller is dodgy.

 

As others have been saying, not other sellers are this bad.

 

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if seller won the case and buyer gives them a neg the neg will be removed.

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