Please help, I'm at a loss.. What options do I have, if any??

[mozismyshepherd]

I won an auction for 3 concert tickets. I was going through some **bleep** & they buyer agreed to let me pay in 2 instalments. He didn't want me paying by PayPal due to fees being taken out (yeah, you can see where this is heading). He agreed to lower the cost of the tickets by $145.

Upon winning the auction, he sent me an invoice he got for purchasing the tickets from the Sydney Opera House.

I paid by bank transfer. 2 payments of $650 in total. I provided him with receipts of said transactions. Now he's saying that he only received $200.

....In his last email he stated:
"I today received an invoice from ebay for $103 for the sale of the morrissey tickets to you however still no sign of $450 or anything further from you (including an email) other than the $200. I have to tell you I have no money to pay my credit card bill let alone the ebay bill and am beginning to wonder whether you have even transferred any more than the $200. I am letting you know that if I do not receive the additional $700 balance in my account by close of business Thursday I will cancel the sale and return $97 to your account subtracting $103 to cover the cost of the ebay sale and my losses.
IF I receive the FULL amount of $700 in my account by COB Thursday the tickets remain yours and I will cover the cost of the eBay sale."

I then contacted eBay & was told that I should not have paid via bank transfer (yes, I know I am stupid, please don't tell me something I already now. I was stupid & desperately wanted these tickets). I was also told that the conversations should've been done through eBay, not me replying to his emails (no. I didn't know this).

I messaged the seller on eBay, replied in length to wrote he wrote & stated that he couldn't cancel the auction & keep my money, & that I will be opening up an investigation with my bank, which will take 10-15 business days. No reply.

Thursday has come & gone, he's still not replying, hasn't sent any of my money, nothing... Ebay have said that they're trying to get in touch with him.

What do I do know? Is there anything I can do?!

Yes I know I was stupid to pay via bank transfer.. It was a rather daft thing for me to do. What I would like to know now, is, what (if anything) can I do? Should do? Or have I lost my my money as well as the tickets...?

Thank you in advance.

[joethenuts]

what can the pollice do , this is a small court job ,we are getting different amounts ,  the seller says there is still $700 owing which wil make it $900 for the tickets which makes sence when the buyer got $145 discount which would of been original price of $1045  ,which would make  ebays fee of $103 correct ,even if the buyer says she paid $650 in total she is still $250 short. who knows , as I said prob a paper work mistake somewhere, 

[cq_tech]

You just can't help yourself, can you Joe? Do you honestly think you know better than the OP as to how much she's paid? Also, this is indeed a police matter, as it's "obtaining money by deception" which is a criminal offence where I come from. You clearly live on a different planet from the rest of us.

[joethenuts]

read the post lady she says she paid $200   +  $450       now i dont know which cave you came from but that does not add up to the full price of $900,    and have a look at her latest posts she is not sure how much she paid ,  if she  has not paid in full, ,how can that be a police matter , even the seller said she paid $200    if he was a bad guy ,he could of said ,she had not sent anything. 

would you send a product if the buyer has not paid in full mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[cq_tech]

Irrelevant. The point is, the seller claims he's only received $200, regardless of how much the OP has paid.

BTW, I think you you might need a new keyboard. Your "m" key keeps getting stuck.

[joethenuts]

you are correct , but if the seller says they only got 1 payment ,  there are lots of reasons why the 2nd payment has not gone in , a mistake with the account number, did she pay in cash or  card cheque  ,. also i must change my keyboard on my laptop.mmm

[elusiveeditions]

I'm not grasping how the seller could possibly have rec'd only $200 of 2 x $650 direct deposits. I use bank transfer a lot & this has never happened- only thing I can think of is if the OP had insufficient funds & their bank only honoured up to $200.... but the OP would know that by now. So ?? on that.

OP, sounds like you've done some good homework and are on the right track... please let us know what happens!

[phorum_junkie*]

The part about you should have paid by Paypal became relevant as soon as you asked to divide the payment into 2. Buyer protection is only available for goods paid for in full with a single payment.

Please ignore Joe, he rarely gets it right and it most certainly should be reported through the link you were givern, of course you should wait until the bank finishes their trace just in case it is not the seller's fault and you miss keyed the account number and the payment went to somebody else.

[joethenuts]

why would the buyer send 2X $650  if it was $900 in total

[elusiveeditions]

Joe, Joe you ask why? Becasue that's what the OP said they did-

"I paid by bank transfer. 2 payments of $650 in total. I provided him with receipts of said transactions. Now he's saying that he only received $200."

Look forward to hearing how the bank trace goes.

[joethenuts]

well junkie  i think i have been pretty right for a lot of the posts  remember mr fun,

looks like a lot of you guys need a calculater. whith the info stated , one side only.

tickets sold for $1045, buyer contacts seller  can you make it only $900, why would you bid $1045 if you cant pay that much.

anyway seller agrees ,maybe feels sorry for her or  what,now as we all know the ebay fee must still be from a $1045 sale which is correct the seller says $103, no argument from the buyer.

then the buyer contacts seller with another story could I pay in installments [wow]  the seller gives in to her but states you have already got a discount if you pay by paypal its going to cost me more money ,so they both agree with doing it with the bank.

the buyer says she sent $200 +$450  = $650  ,for some reason seller says he only got $200  [we dont know what happened to the other $450.  now the seller tells the buyer you have until thursday night to pay the other $700, as he believes he only got $200

now the seller has put a day on the tickets because these tickes are not worth a cent after the concert ,so he has all the right to name a day , the deadline day ,even if she paid in total $650   she is still short $250.

at the end of the day which ever story you believe the tickets have not been paid in full , the seller has given the buyer a discount after the auction , has also allowed for the buyer to pay in instalments  ,maybe the buyer would like the seller to take them and take them home after the concert.  from joe who does not wear blinkers  have a nice day.