Seller Cancels Auction Sale After Item is Paid for. / Bargains Depend entirely on Goodwill Part 2.

[ra157]

On 26 Dec 2018, I got a nice auction win on a mini-monocular. I paid for it on Paypal. The seller then immediately caneclled the order on Paypal and refunded my money. I sent a message to the seller asking why, and I got no response. I then complained to Ebay.

Ebay advised that the auction was cancelled at PayPal, and that I should not worry about the extremely annoying "Unpaid Item" that is still listed against the item in My Ebay Summary

I just left a Negative rating.

As per my previous thread of very similar title, I am of the opinion that Ebay should ban sellers that engage in such a practice for life.
Regards,
Renato

[kopenhagen5]

Seller probably meant to list it for $45 and it was a typo.

Didn't realize until they received the sold email.

[ra157]

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@kopenhagen5 wrote:

Seller probably meant to list it for $45 and it was a typo.

Didn't realize until they received the sold email.

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I can buy it New at my local Chinese store for $17.
Regards,
Renato

[digital*ghost]

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@ra157 wrote:

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I can buy it New at my local Chinese store for $17.
Regards,
Renato

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That doesn't mean the seller didn't make an error when they listed (JMHO their biggest mistake was having an auction end on boxing day, those who do shop tend to flock to B&Ms, but I suppose that's by the by). 

eBay would have to ban all the big players if they were going to go down the road of banning sellers for cancelling sales, most of them have extensive T&Cs which include a right to withdraw from a sale, which retailers in general have, under certain conditions, even if not made an explicit term of sale. 

Bad form to just cancel without contacting you, and not replying to your messages of course, but your personal anger over the incident isn't going to make eBay do anything that results in banning sellers who cancel sales (unless the do it for being out of stock too many times, anyway). 

And you're unlikely to get many replies that differ from the responses to your last thread, either. 

[ra157]

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@digital*ghost wrote:

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@ra157 wrote:

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That doesn't mean the seller didn't make an error when they listed (JMHO their biggest mistake was having an auction end on boxing day, those who do shop tend to flock to B&Ms, but I suppose that's by the by). 

eBay would have to ban all the big players if they were going to go down the road of banning sellers for cancelling sales, most of them have extensive T&Cs which include a right to withdraw from a sale, which retailers in general have, under certain conditions, even if not made an explicit term of sale. 

Bad form to just cancel without contacting you, and not replying to your messages of course, but your personal anger over the incident isn't going to make eBay do anything that results in banning sellers who cancel sales (unless the do it for being out of stock too many times, anyway). 

And you're unlikely to get many replies that differ from the responses to your last thread, either. 

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So is what you are in effect saying, that the title of my thread is 100% correct?
If so, I can't argue with that.

Still, I opine that if the policy I suggested was implemented, it would pretty much solve the problem.

I can't see that continually allowing the practice in any way enhances Ebay's reputation.
Regards,
Renato

[imastawka]

Your last thread had the exact same title 8 months ago.

Oh, sorry, that was part 1.

Same answers though.

[digital*ghost]

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@ra157 wrote:

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So is what you are in effect saying, that the title of my thread is 100% correct?
If so, I can't argue with that.

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Lol, do you have a lot of imaginary arguments in the shower?

To answer your question - No. 

I said exactly what I wrote, and made no reference to your title, nor provided any opinion whatsoever as to whether I thought it was correct. 

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@ra157 wrote:

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@digital*ghost wrote:

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@ra157 wrote:

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That doesn't mean the seller didn't make an error when they listed (JMHO their biggest mistake was having an auction end on boxing day, those who do shop tend to flock to B&Ms, but I suppose that's by the by). 

eBay would have to ban all the big players if they were going to go down the road of banning sellers for cancelling sales, most of them have extensive T&Cs which include a right to withdraw from a sale, which retailers in general have, under certain conditions, even if not made an explicit term of sale. 

Bad form to just cancel without contacting you, and not replying to your messages of course, but your personal anger over the incident isn't going to make eBay do anything that results in banning sellers who cancel sales (unless the do it for being out of stock too many times, anyway). 

And you're unlikely to get many replies that differ from the responses to your last thread, either. 

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So is what you are in effect saying, that the title of my thread is 100% correct?
If so, I can't argue with that.

Still, I opine that if the policy I suggested was implemented, it would pretty much solve the problem.

I can’t see that continually allowing the practice in any way enhances Ebay's reputation.
Regards,
Renato

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Renato, happy new year! Hope you have a trouble free year on eBay in 2019.

Still, I opine that if the policy I suggested was implemented, it would pretty much solve the problem.

I can’t see that banning a seller for life for cancelling would work or solve the problem.  There are so many variables, including the ability of a banned seller to simply start up another ID with a clean 100% feedback rating by buying some cheap freepost widgets from China before listing items again.  Then, your negative feedback wouldn’t do anything to warn others about a bad seller.

Spoiler

and please, just take my reply at face value, don’t read things into it or suggest that I am saying something I am not.

Spoiler

Things I have not said or believe:
- it is okay for a seller to cancel an item for no good reason
- sellers should not be sanctioned for bad behaviour
- I do not agree with eBay policy
- I agree with the thread title

[*tippy*toes*]

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@ra157 wrote:

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@digital*ghost wrote:

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@ra157 wrote:

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That doesn't mean the seller didn't make an error when they listed (JMHO their biggest mistake was having an auction end on boxing day, those who do shop tend to flock to B&Ms, but I suppose that's by the by). 

eBay would have to ban all the big players if they were going to go down the road of banning sellers for cancelling sales, most of them have extensive T&Cs which include a right to withdraw from a sale, which retailers in general have, under certain conditions, even if not made an explicit term of sale. 

Bad form to just cancel without contacting you, and not replying to your messages of course, but your personal anger over the incident isn't going to make eBay do anything that results in banning sellers who cancel sales (unless the do it for being out of stock too many times, anyway). 

And you're unlikely to get many replies that differ from the responses to your last thread, either. 

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So is what you are in effect saying, that the title of my thread is 100% correct?
If so, I can't argue with that.

Still, I opine that if the policy I suggested was implemented, it would pretty much solve the problem.

I can't see that continually allowing the practice in any way enhances Ebay's reputation.
Regards,
Renato

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I thought we'd seen the last of that word......

[countessalmirena]

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@digital*ghost wrote:

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@ra157 wrote:

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So is what you are in effect saying, that the title of my thread is 100% correct?
If so, I can't argue with that.

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Lol, do you have a lot of imaginary arguments in the shower?

To answer your question - No. 

I said exactly what I wrote, and made no reference to your title, nor provided any opinion whatsoever as to whether I thought it was correct. 

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A small snack for sustenance...