Sellers not posting to PO Boxes

Why doesnt Ebay warn buyers a seller will not post to a PO box?

You only find out AFTER you have agreed to buy the item then you have to fight to get order cancelled.

 

The listing should clearly state that the seller doesnt post to PO Boxes as it is a term of the contract.

 

The present system where you only find out that the seller wont post to you after you buy the item is NOT user friendly at all and NOT full disclosure by Ebay.

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@4channel wrote:

No, what stevbak wrrote is correct and more to the point. Sorry.


Only if you think the only thing sellers care about is making as much money as possible, and if that is the case, you wouldn't think very much about sellers at all, nor understand much about human nature. When a buyer says "you're not getting my money then", it is always based on the premise that money is the most important thing to any seller and that they'll be upset at missing out on some, and if you think that, somewhere along the way it would seem you lost the ability to regard sellers as human, and / or respect them as such. 

 

Sure, there might be some sellers (and certainly a lot of corporations) for whom that is the case, but businesses are run by individuals, and they are not all the same - they have different goals and different preferences, and those lead to making business decisions that suit them and they way the find it easiest to operate, and it is almost always knowingly at the expense of a portion of the market. 

 

 

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@4channel wrote:

No, what stevbak wrrote is correct and more to the point. Sorry.


@digital*ghost wrote:

 

 

Only if you think the only thing sellers care about is making as much money as possible, and if that is the case, you wouldn't think very much about sellers at all, nor understand much about human nature. When a buyer says "you're not getting my money then", it is always based on the premise that money is the most important thing to any seller and that they'll be upset at missing out on some, and if you think that, somewhere along the way it would seem you lost the ability to regard sellers as human, and / or respect them as such. 

 


Well I don't think in  the way you suggest as a possibility. And it's a bit unlike you to ponder on a hypothetical scenario that I would lose the ability to regard sellers as human or respect them as such. When I was selling I took pride in my work and I'm sure there's lots of sellers out there that do.

 


@digital*ghost wrote:

 

Sure, there might be some sellers (and certainly a lot of corporations) for whom that is the case, but businesses are run by individuals, and they are not all the same - they have different goals and different preferences, and those lead to making business decisions that suit them and they way the find it easiest to operate, and it is almost always knowingly at the expense of a portion of the market. 

 

 


 

I have worked in various sales related roles for a number of years. Anyone bar a fly-by-nighter knows that a long-term sales solution works best. One role I had involved monitoring what was happening with the opposition and making sure if they were doing something new that was beneficial to them that we'd be using the same tactic but better. I also knew that at first glance we were to appear user-friendly as people will quickly move to the competition if they see something that is an obstacle.

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So you're saying that as a seller you know what works for you.

 

But on the other hand you are saying as a buyer that anything that doesn't conform with what you expect means the seller is less than legitimate.

 

There seems to be a dissonance there.

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@davewil1964 wrote:

So you're saying that as a seller you know what works for you.

 

But on the other hand you are saying as a buyer that anything that doesn't conform with what you expect means the seller is less than legitimate.

 

There seems to be a dissonance there.


I'm not say anything davewil1964 except that this is time for you to let it go.

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I have worked in various sales related roles for a number of years. Anyone bar a fly-by-nighter knows that a long-term sales solution works best. One role I had involved monitoring what was happening with the opposition and making sure if they were doing something new that was beneficial to them that we'd be using the same tactic but better. I also knew that at first glance we were to appear user-friendly as people will quickly move to the competition if they see something that is an obstacle.

 

Define "best", and "beneficial". Then answer me this: Best for who or what, beneficial to who, and how? 

 

If you're still bringing it back to money, you missed my point, if you're not, then this is the same thing I said - surely you recognise that? 

 

"a long-term sales solution works best" can very easily involve excluding a portion of the market - any business that knows what they are doing knows that they have a target customer, and tailors their business model around that customer, knowing that there will be some customers that are lost through those actions or strategies. Money itself is an obstacle for a significant portion of people all over the world, "designer" brands don't give a hoot.

 

I don't allow pick-up, I don't accept bank deposit, I won't post to parcel lockers or parcel collect addresses, I won't post to Nigeria (lol), I won't stock every product any random customer asks about, and I won't lie about my products or intentionally mislead people about their properties, like so many others who sell similar items to me.

 

I neither know nor care how many sales I've "lost" due to the fact that I can't / won't cater to (or for) every customer need or expectation, that's impossible for every seller regardless of how money-hungry they are, anyway - I care about my ability to do my job, in a safe and efficient way that minimises problems for myself** and making a decent living in the process, and declining to do the above significantly contributes to my ability to acheive those goals. 

 

So, as I said, businesses are run by individuals, who have different goals and preferences, which lead to businesses decisions that suit them and the way the find it easiest to operate, and it is almost always knowingly at the expense of a portion of the market. 

 

 

 

 

 

** A note about this point in particular - the fewer problems I have to deal with, the more time and attention I can give to my customers. The more specialised and focused my service standards are, the more my business grows within my target customer base due to word of mouth. In other words, eliminating a percentage of sales that have a higher potential to drain my resources, including time, does not benefit me, my customers, or my bank account. 

 

 

 

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@4channel wrote:

@davewil1964 wrote:

So you're saying that as a seller you know what works for you.

 

But on the other hand you are saying as a buyer that anything that doesn't conform with what you expect means the seller is less than legitimate.

 

There seems to be a dissonance there.


I'm not say anything davewil1964 except that this is time for you to let it go.


You are saying many things. A lot of them don't align with other things you say. I won't let hypocrisy go. Maybe you could work out what your stance actually is. If you have one.

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@4channel wrote:

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@4channel wrote:

No, what stevbak wrrote is correct and more to the point. Sorry.


@digital*ghost wrote:

 

 

Only if you think the only thing sellers care about is making as much money as possible, and if that is the case, you wouldn't think very much about sellers at all, nor understand much about human nature. When a buyer says "you're not getting my money then", it is always based on the premise that money is the most important thing to any seller and that they'll be upset at missing out on some, and if you think that, somewhere along the way it would seem you lost the ability to regard sellers as human, and / or respect them as such. 

 


Well I don't think in  the way you suggest as a possibility. And it's a bit unlike you to ponder on a hypothetical scenario that I would lose the ability to regard sellers as human or respect them as such. When I was selling I took pride in my work and I'm sure there's lots of sellers out there that do.

 


@digital*ghost wrote:

 

Sure, there might be some sellers (and certainly a lot of corporations) for whom that is the case, but businesses are run by individuals, and they are not all the same - they have different goals and different preferences, and those lead to making business decisions that suit them and they way the find it easiest to operate, and it is almost always knowingly at the expense of a portion of the market. 

 

 


 

I have worked in various sales related roles for a number of years. Anyone bar a fly-by-nighter knows that a long-term sales solution works best. One role I had involved monitoring what was happening with the opposition and making sure if they were doing something new that was beneficial to them that we'd be using the same tactic but better. I also knew that at first glance we were to appear user-friendly as people will quickly move to the competition if they see something that is an obstacle.


Where I live, there are still several stand alone butcher shops. The one we buy from is outside the IGA supermarket. They grow and produce their own meat, all locally, which is why we choose to support them. Plus the meat is damned good! They advertise as being non-Halal.

 

Like most areas in the country, we are gaining more and more Muslim people into the community. A lot of them shop at the IGA. The butcher shop would know that they aren't catering to that part of the community, and could be "losing business" because of it. They don't care. They refuse to change their practices to cater to a minority.

 

They have standards in their production of meat and stand by those standards. They have had to increase their livestock levels because they are so popular and often sell out, so in reality, they aren't losing any business. They have also now included more exotic meats, like buffalo and camel, all of which they raise. You really should try the buffalo snags, they are to die for!

 

They sell pretty much every part of the animal. There is very little waste. They even sell bags of fat for rendering. There are other foreign born people in the community who like to cook with parts of the animal that westerners would never dream of eating. They love it for celebrations. They put their order in, and it's in store the next morning.

 

So while they may be losing some business due to not being Halal, they are gaining a lot more business by offering what other foreigners like, instead of throwing it out. In the big scheme of things, they are not losing business at all. Their business is booming. They have gone from husband and wife, to now having another 6 staff.

 

It's no different to eBay sellers. If someone chooses not to send to a PO box because they use a courier, they don't care about the minority that won't buy from them. If a seller chooses to use express post only and a buyer is turned off by the extra cost, the seller doesn't care, because they are making up for that elsewhere.

 

Like everything else, you are clutching at straws.

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Some sellers could lose money by excluding PO box and some wouldn't. And the others that use couriers, well there could be situations where they have to. Naturally that would exclude P.O. box.

 

 

Cool with a lot more Muslims coming into your area. The majority are nice hard working people and most have sober habits. Can be a bit frustrating having them as neighbours though if you're trying to watch your diet. Due to most coming from the Middle East or Malaysia the real tasty food is too hard to resist when they offer you some.

 

No doubt there'll be a Halal butcher opening at some stage soon in your area.

 

No I haven't tried buffalo sausages yet. If *tippy*toes says they're nice then I'd probably not be disappointed.

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Right now at the 23/NOV/2020 I am having trouble with a seller not accepting my PO BOX address during checkout. They are fraudulent Chinese selllers. They do this because once you pay with paypal, they have your name, paypal email, residential address, and then they proceed to use that information to sell on the black markets and make fake passports etc in Asia. I am looking at an item which is listed under 15 different usernames, and yet they are all the same seller. The Seller has more negative feedbacks than I could count in a day, and they haven't replied to one negative feedback. This is typical of Ebay and China, it's a big scam. I often have private emails sent directly to me after the sale; from Chinese dealers claiming to be living and having the items in Australia. I have changed my paypal email 9 times in the past 2 years, just because of this nonsense. Do not give these sellers your residential address if you don't feel safe to do so. I don't feel safe telling you this, but also if they have your name and address, they can then do a whitepages search and obtain a phone number, which they some frauds use to access your bank account etc. 

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What a load of rubbish.

If you are so paranoid then ebay is not for you.....or any online shopping site.

 

I have been giving my address for the whole time I have been using ebay and never in all that time have I had trouble with hackers or identity theft.

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