on 29-06-2018 06:19 PM
I buy second hand collectables from small sellers located in the US and Europe. If I have them shipped to me in Australia will GST somehow be charged from July 1? What if shipping is to a US address?
on 28-09-2018 05:34 AM
on 28-09-2018 05:54 AM
There has always been GST on used goods. Do you really think that if you go into an antique or second hand goods store that you are not charged GST?
Comlaining about the overseas loophole being closed is not going to change it so you might as well accept it and move on.
on 28-09-2018 09:59 AM
Even if the Labor Party is our next Federal Government the GST will still be there to annoy you.
In case you have not noticed, in the 18years since the GST came into being we have had both Liberal and Labor governments so what makes you think it will change this time?
on 28-09-2018 09:59 AM
@daysontheroad wrote:
There is only one answer to this problem of charging GST in Australia on secondhand goods from overseas. The answer is to vote out the Liberal Federal Government at the next election for failing to keep the promise they made when Treasurer Peter Costello introduced GST in Australia and stated that there would be NO GST on used goods. These liars need to be shown for what they are. You don't go to a garage sale and pay GST on used goods, so why should it be paid on used goods sold on eBay if it happens to come from overseas? There is no GST charged by EBay when similar used goods are sold to Australian buyers from Australian sellers, so why should there is a GST if those items cone from overseas? This whole thing makes no sense at all, except that buyers are being ripped off by an unlawful tax.
Hi daysontheroad , the problem is that a certain garden gnome said certain things would never happen and like the truth that went "overboard", it was nothing more than that.
If Margaret in the US (who is not a seller as such) is selling some of her mothers tea towels from the 1960s or her brothers records, we shouldn't have to pay GST on that. We never did have to and now we do. That is always an indication of worse things to come too!
on 28-09-2018 10:02 AM
@daysontheroad wrote:
You must be a **bleep**er to be defending the Australian Federal Government's decision to charge GST on used goods. That's the typical attitude of Gerry Harvey of Harvey Norman fame who wants to sabotage overseas imports so that his business can profit.
The wealthy always maintain their lifestyle they a accustomed to, but always crave more. And at our expense!. I am in agreememnt with what you say daysontheroad.
on 28-09-2018 10:50 AM
@4channel wrote:
If Margaret in the US (who is not a seller as such) is selling some of her mothers tea towels from the 1960s or her brothers records, we shouldn't have to pay GST on that. We never did have to and now we do. That is always an indication of worse things to come too!
If you can get in touch with Margaret in the USA you can still buy her mother's teatowels or her brother's records with no GST.
However, if you buy from Margaret through ebay you will pay GST. That is the whole crux of the matter.....you only pay GST if you are buying through ebay from overseas.
If you are really keen to buy old teatowels I have some of my mother's from the 1930s and mine from the 1960s. I am in Australia so no GST applicable. BUT you have to find me first as I do not sell on ebay.
on 28-09-2018 12:20 PM
@lyndal1838 wrote:
@4channel wrote:
If Margaret in the US (who is not a seller as such) is selling some of her mothers tea towels from the 1960s or her brothers records, we shouldn't have to pay GST on that. We never did have to and now we do. That is always an indication of worse things to come too!If you can get in touch with Margaret in the USA you can still buy her mother's teatowels or her brother's records with no GST.
However, if you buy from Margaret through ebay you will pay GST. That is the whole crux of the matter.....you only pay GST if you are buying through ebay from overseas.
Well Lyndal, being a great fan of the saying "This time last year", I'll use that. So, this time last year if I bought something from someone like Margaret who just decided to sell some unwanted items on eBay, I would pay the cost price and the cost of postage.
Now we end up paying more for second hand items from people who are not really sellers. It is hitting us in the pocket where it hurts.
I'm not a great fan of asking sellers to take items off sale and sell via another method.
If you are really keen to buy old teatowels I have some of my mother's from the 1930s and mine from the 1960s. I am in Australia so no GST applicable. BUT you have to find me first as I do not sell on ebay
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They sound like family heirlooms. I wouldn't like to see you part with them Lyndal. Hang on to them.
on 28-09-2018 12:45 PM
You have completely missed the point.....if Margaret was not selling on ebay you would probably not even be able to buy from her as you would never find her.
You are only paying GST because the government has deemed ebay to be the seller for the purpose of collecting th GST.
If 10% increase in prices makes so much difference to your purchasing then yu probably should not be buying from overseas anyway.
I buy some stationery items from overseas.....they used to be about 40-50% cheaper than Officeworks here in Sydney. They are now 30-40% cheaper so I still buy from overseas and don't whinge about it.
28-09-2018 02:07 PM - edited 28-09-2018 02:10 PM
@lyndal1838 wrote:You have completely missed the point.....if Margaret was not selling on ebay you would probably not even be able to buy from her as you would never find her.
You are only paying GST because the government has deemed ebay to be the seller for the purpose of collecting th GST.
If 10% increase in prices makes so much difference to your purchasing then yu probably should not be buying from overseas anyway.
I buy some stationery items from overseas.....they used to be about 40-50% cheaper than Officeworks here in Sydney. They are now 30-40% cheaper so I still buy from overseas and don't whinge about it.
I didn't miss your point. I love the way you added whinge. Still as lovely as ever Lyndal. LOL
28-09-2018 03:46 PM - edited 28-09-2018 03:48 PM
@4channel wrote:
@daysontheroad wrote:
There is only one answer to this problem of charging GST in Australia on secondhand goods from overseas. The answer is to vote out the Liberal Federal Government at the next election for failing to keep the promise they made when Treasurer Peter Costello introduced GST in Australia and stated that there would be NO GST on used goods. These liars need to be shown for what they are. You don't go to a garage sale and pay GST on used goods, so why should it be paid on used goods sold on eBay if it happens to come from overseas? There is no GST charged by EBay when similar used goods are sold to Australian buyers from Australian sellers, so why should there is a GST if those items cone from overseas? This whole thing makes no sense at all, except that buyers are being ripped off by an unlawful tax.Hi daysontheroad , the problem is that a certain garden gnome said certain things would never happen and like the truth that went "overboard", it was nothing more than that.
If Margaret in the US (who is not a seller as such) is selling some of her mothers tea towels from the 1960s or her brothers records, we shouldn't have to pay GST on that. We never did have to and now we do. That is always an indication of worse things to come too!
4channel, surely you are not saying that when a Prime Minister makes a political promise that it must be upheld by all subsequent governments of the same political persuasion for ever and ever?
It has been 18 years since the introduction of the GST. The retail sector has changed a great deal in the last 18 years. Surely an intelligent person would recognise that laws (and taxes) need updating as circumstances change.
We all want the best hospitals, schools, roads etc. These have to be paid for. If the GST had been introduced at a time when e-commerce was generating billions of dollars in overseas purchases then those purchases would all have been included in the GST legislation from the very beginning.
I would hate to go back and read all the things that previous Prime Ministers have promised and apply them to Australia in 2018. I mean, when you argue that promises must be upheld by subsequent governments you are saying that John Howard’s views/promises on same-sex marriage should have been enshrined in Coalition policy forever and ever. After all, John Howard took the steps to include that marriage was between a “man and a woman” into the legislation dealing with marriages. Until then it was worded something like “between two people”.
When you cough up that comment about a John Howard promise, with the disparaging reference to gnomes, you really do lose credibility in my eyes.