ARE YOU ONE OF AUSTRALIA’S 10 MILLION WORKING TAXPAYERS ?

[nero_bolt]

ARE YOU ONE OF AUSTRALIA’S 10 MILLION WORKING TAXPAYERS ?

 IF SO, PLEASE PAY $1,200 IN EXTRA TAXES EVERY YEAR JUST TO PAY THE INTEREST ON LABOR’S DEBT.

(Personally I would prefer the left and labor voters to pay this debt)

 In 2007, when Labor came to power, the Australian Government was COLLECTING more than $1 billion a year in net interest payments on the back of a positive net asset position created by the previous Coalition Government.

 Now, we are forced to pay $1 billion a month in interest payments just to service all the debt accumulated by the previous Labor government.

 That is means for every one of about 10 million working taxpayers across Australia has to pay about $100 in tax each and every month, or about $1,200 in tax every year, JUST to pay the interest on Labor’s debt

[boris1gary]

maybe nerowulf could let us know where some of the 1 million jobs promised by abbott are, or maybe one of the jobs from the repealing of the carbon price - remember that? The job destroying, town destroying, $100 leg of lamb, killer of unicorns carbon price.....pfffffftttttt

[love*today]

Is that just for him, the baby will bring in money also and does his wife work? Even if she doesn't wouldn't she get money too. They would also have a healthcare card, wish I had one, free dental, medicine for next to nothing.

[punch*drunk]

He has a partner and 12 month old baby to support and is receiving the princely  "handout" of  $460 a fortnight.

If he's told you thats all he's recieving then he's pulling your leg or has neglected to let centrelink know about his partner and child. A partner and child would add about $1000 a fortnight and, like lovetday said, a healthcare card. Rent assistance on top of that if they are renting.

Good on him for applying for the air force, the defence force are heavily advertising at the moment so there must be plenty of jobs that need filling. The process can take a while though depending on what job he is going for. My son wants to join the Navy when he leaves school.

[nero_bolt]

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@punch*drunk wrote:

He has a partner and 12 month old baby to support and is receiving the princely  "handout" of  $460 a fortnight.

If he's told you thats all he's recieving then he's pulling your leg or has neglected to let centrelink know about his partner and child. A partner and child would add about $1000 a fortnight and, like lovetday said, a healthcare card. Rent assistance on top of that if they are renting.

Good on him for applying for the air force, the defence force are heavily advertising at the moment so there must be plenty of jobs that need filling. The process can take a while though depending on what job he is going for. My son wants to join the Navy when he leaves school.

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I agree and I think the elephants are being fed a good story.

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

No, I am not one of the 10 million working taxpayers - neither is my eldest grandson. He is one of Australia's 13.5% of unemployed youth. (actuzlly he lives in Queensland, where I understand the percentage is even higher)

Due to cutbacks at his place of employment, he was retrenched from his job as a trades assistant a couple of months ago, has been unable to find work since and is becoming desperate. He has a partner and 12 month old baby to support and is receiving the princely  "handout" of  $460 a fortnight.  The family are trying to help out and Mr. Elephant and I have just sent him $500 which we can ill afford. 

SO DON'T PREACH TO ME ABOUT THE AGE OF ENTITLEMENT ! (yes, I'm shouting.)

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What punch*drunk wrote.............   If he's told you thats all he's recieving then he's pulling your leg or has neglected to let centrelink know about his partner and child. A partner and child would add about $1000 a fortnight and, like lovetday said, a healthcare card. Rent assistance on top of that if they are renting.

To me that much in hand outs and benifits is in your workds she el THE AGE OF ENTITLEMENTS..... 

Good on him though wanting to work and trying to get into the defence forces.....

[cherry*135]

Average rent in a lot of areas ( family home 2 - 3bedrooms) in Australia is $400 per week. That is $800 a fortnight which is needed for rent only.

Currently $250 approx per week for a single person on Newstart, plus small amt of rent assistance. Live a luxurious life on that (not).

The current Govt is going to make things much worse for these people in Jan next year.

96 people have lost their jobs this week in the area I live in.

[tall_bearded01]

“What punch*drunk wrote.............   If he's told you thats all he's recieving then he's pulling your leg or has neglected to let centrelink know about his partner and child. A partner and child would add about $1000 a fortnight and, like lovetday said, a healthcare card. Rent assistance on top of that if they are renting.

To me that much in hand outs and benifits is in your workds she el THE AGE OF ENTITLEMENTS.....”

So what’s wrong with that. The man is unemployed through no fault of his own. He’s actively seeking employment in a very tight labour market, and more importantly is prepared to enter into a long term contract to perform work in an environment in which he thinks he will not be wholly comfortable with, but is willing to do so he can provide for his family.

What more do you expect of him?

Furthermore, it also brooks the question, in a society such as Australia, how much do you say a family who find themselves in this situation, is worth.  Very little, if anything, is your past comments are anything to go by. So what is your solution. The American one. Sleep in shelters and eat in soup kitchens, because that's the ultimate aim of of this "age of entitlements" carp.

As for “Good on him though wanting to work and trying to get into the defence forces....’ such a comment is so condescending as to not merit a response.

[2106greencat]

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@love*today wrote:
Is that just for him, the baby will bring in money also and does his wife work? Even if she doesn't wouldn't she get money too. They would also have a healthcare card, wish I had one, free dental, medicine for next to nothing.

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When did this come in ? I am way behind the times, and staying on topic, yes OP I am one of the millions working......not that I have much to show for it at the end of each week, ho hum.

[tall_bearded01]

And if you want to start sinking the boot into those who think themselves entitled, lets start at the top.

In the last job I was in, I was in “middle management”. For the uninitiated “middle management’ means all the responsibilities with none of the perks.

My immediate superior was an “exceptive”. Got the full bells and whistles package. Car (including fuel and servicing and repair), kids in a private school, etc., all payed for by salary offsets.

Outcome, his taxable income was less than mine, which meant, he was paying less tax than I was, and to make things worse, everything he was getting tax free, we were paying for out of our after tax income.

So if your are truly all for ending the age of entitlement, then how about we start with – from I July next year all benefits derived from wage offsets are now classed as taxable income for the purposed of income tax. That is their value is combined with a person’s cash earnings and they pay income tax on the total amount.

Considering that there a about a million tax payers who manipulate the system in this way, this alone should add quite a few billion dollars to the tax revenue each year, every year

[tall_bearded01]

It isn’t. I know of one pensioner, went to the dentist, need a tooth pulled, was told $200, couldn’t afford it, went home, went to the shed got a pair of pliers and pulled I himself, without an antithetic. Tough old bugger.

You see there was a time when people on concession cards (pensions, etc.) could get free or subsidised dental. But the scheme was so poor though out that even the rich could manipulate the system to get it.

Outcome. A massive cost blowout, scheme cancelled and those who needed it most were left with nothing.

[the_great_she_elephant]

He said that's what they are getting, and presumably his partner is also receiving child endowment (or whatever it's called now) . I imagine hemust have had a redundancy payment when he was laid off, so  won't receive more 'newstart allowance" until that cuts out.

 After he was retrenched they moved to Brisbane on the firm promise of a job - which never eventuated. His partner is also looking for work, but at the moment there is an added difficulty because the baby has health problems. he is recovering fron "hand, foot and mouth" disease http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Hand_foot_and_mouth_disease?open and last night was rushed to hospital with croup. the poor little battlers just can't take a trick at the moment.