on 15-04-2020 06:52 PM
Mostly restrict oldies to home quarantine after first establishing an efficient
home delivery system for essentials.
Let all the young ones just go for it and get the economy rolling again.
Some will die but the flu also kills at about the same rate and it's usually
people with a pre-existing condition which makes them vulnerable so what
COVID-19 doesn't get the flu will.
For the most part it will be a mild case of the flu and we having been living
this way since the Spanish Flu pandemic.
The most vulnerable group ( oldies ) will be protected until a vaccine is developed.
We would have to FaceTime our relatives. A small price to pay for the good of mostly all.
Any oldies caught outdoors without an 'effective' face mask will be stripped of excursion rights.
The alternative is sending our country broke.
If put to a vote then most oldies ( including me ) would vote yes.
on 15-04-2020 10:09 PM
@dontmissthese wrote:If I actually came to an online forum to make friends then there
would most definitely be something wrong with my life.
You've certainly ticked that box.
As you are self-isolating you have plenty of time on your hands. And obviously have internet access. Maybe spend your spare time investigating such things as eugenics (especially the Nazi take thereof), involuntary euthanasia, depression, forced solitary confinement. Probably others, but I'm sure your investigatory skills could come up with many more topics related to your (final) 'solution'
on 15-04-2020 10:11 PM
@dontmissthese wrote:If I actually came to an online forum to make friends then there
would most definitely be something wrong with my life.
There is something wrong with your life in any event.
15-04-2020 10:35 PM - edited 15-04-2020 10:35 PM
An increasing number of younger people are suggesting an obvious fix of their own. They are saying scr*w the oldies, they have lived their lives, now it's our turn. They are young, fit and healthy and are clearly invincible. At worst they will experience mild flu like symptoms. Why waste money protecting the oldies - lets think about the economy. The coronavirus is no threat to them. Let nature run it's course and make way for the young. After all, the future is theirs.
Their fix is about on par with yours. If put to a vote, then many young people might vote yes.
on 15-04-2020 10:57 PM
@dontmissthese wrote:The age group would be those considered most at risk.
Over 70 or 65 ( if with pre-existing conditions ).
Stats for Italy is or was average age 79 but with spread being +/- 20 years , so also technically strike often the senior business/political "listers"
( can not say class)
on 15-04-2020 11:02 PM
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:An increasing number of younger people are suggesting an obvious fix of their own. They are saying scr*w the oldies, they have lived their lives, now it's our turn. They are young, fit and healthy and are clearly invincible. At worst they will experience mild flu like symptoms. Why waste money protecting the oldies - lets think about the economy. The coronavirus is no threat to them. Let nature run it's course and make way for the young. After all, the future is theirs.
Their fix is about on par with yours. If put to a vote, then many young people might vote yes.
Yeah early on in America the disease was being disparagingly called " boomer remover" by the some of the capricious millennials - but I do not think are so dismissive now....
on 15-04-2020 11:07 PM
A few younger ones dying now so that group is not immune to this Virus 😞
I dont mind isolating for this month and it may go longer here in NZ
If it was a year to 18 months, well think I would go crazy.
At least I can go out for food shopping when the fridge gets empty.
I make a list and am in and out very quickly.
on 15-04-2020 11:14 PM
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:An increasing number of younger people are suggesting an obvious fix of their own. They are saying scr*w the oldies, they have lived their lives, now it's our turn. They are young, fit and healthy and are clearly invincible. At worst they will experience mild flu like symptoms. Why waste money protecting the oldies - lets think about the economy. The coronavirus is no threat to them. Let nature run it's course and make way for the young. After all, the future is theirs.
Their fix is about on par with yours. If put to a vote, then many young people might vote yes.
But the young can be carriers - so not social-isolating will eventually spread the disease to many infirm over 55 year olds
Without testing , all pepole in customer service should be wearing masks to protect customers , just in case they are carriers , but of course no tests , no evidence , no examples , can not possibly happen - the ruby princess rationale
on 15-04-2020 11:53 PM
"But the young can be carriers - so not social-isolating will eventually spread the disease to many infirm over 55 year olds".
You'll get no argument from me. But the OP didn't really address the spread, strengthening and possible mutation of the virus, and the dangerous consequences of a worsening pandemic. So I thought I would share and alternative fix that many young people are proposing, which is just as preposterous IMO.
on 16-04-2020 07:52 AM
As '' out there " as the OP's post is, it is highly likely to be the outcome regardless. It wont be stated by politicians or made obvious, it will just happen.
Most older people I know ( 70 + ) are already voluntarily isolating. I suspect most will keep isolating voluntarily until the virus no longer poses a threat. Governments around the world will start to remove restrictions in the months ahead as the train crash of economic oblivion that is heading our way becomes obvious to the public.
So what you will see is younger people out and about with some getting the virus and building herd immunity while the senior citizens self isolate at home.
We still don't have vaccines for SARS and MERS, two similar and most recent virus to COVID 19 and we cant all simply stay locked in our houses for years waiting in the hope that a vaccine will be developed for COVID 19.
The collateral loss of life from depression, loneliness, suicide, lack of regular medical care for other conditions ( as people are too afraid to attend medical clinics ) , domestic violence, rise in obesity and general mental health decline will be worse than the virus itself if this goes on for many months. Not to mention the collapse of our economic systems which will exacerbate the decline in mental health and suicide as well as causing threats to food stability.
The threat to food stability is already happening as weedicide and fertiliser production and distribution have already been effected by international production and transport disruptions, as has transport and down stream processing of food products. Australian Wheat prices have currently spiked to near record levels as a result of looming world shortages being factored into international markets.
on 16-04-2020 08:27 AM
If I had to choose a coronavirus then it would be the common cold.
None of us have a choice right now.
If it drags on for months then the Great Depression will look like a picnic.
There will be no snappy v shaped recovery.
Our Reserve Bank will no longer has the push to stimulate the economy
with rate cuts. 0.5% won't give them much wiggle room.
It's not all doom and gloom though.
We will find that we were only ever wanting things that others had
just convinced us we needed.
Most of the rest will be ( doom and gloom ).
Economies don't 'recover'.
Millions just lose everthing they have as happened during the GFC.
This one will see 'billions' lose.
We desperately need a quicker fix than 12-18 months.