on โ03-01-2016 06:20 PM
on โ03-01-2016 10:56 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@jimmy*part3 wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:We have a small wildlife park in my home town if I discovered that a group of armed militants had marched in and seized control of it I don't think I'd be checking their ethnicity or religious beliefs before calling them terrorists.
Oh, so you were looking out your window and saw these people marching by and thought they were terrorist when you wrote the OP?
Ok, my bad.
What part of IF did you not understand?
What does "IF" have to with anything? You read the article and wrote an OP stating there was a terrorist attack.
You knowingly misrepresented the story.
on โ03-01-2016 11:03 PM
Militia:1) a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
2) a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities in opposition to a regular army.
3) (in the US) all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service.
From the article:
After the peaceful rally was completed today, a group of outside militants drove to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, where they seized and occupied the refuge headquarters. Seize: take hold of suddenly and forcibly.
In phone interviews from inside the occupied building Saturday night, Ammon Bundy and his brother, Ryan Bundy, said they are not looking to hurt anyone. But they would not rule out violence if police tried to remove them, they said.
Given that this militia seized the centre and are not only occupying it illegally but refusing rule out violence if anyone tries to remove them then which of those three descriptions do you think best fits them.
And if the names of these militants were Mohamed or Habib instead of Bundy would anyone doubt that they were terrorists?,
on โ03-01-2016 11:08 PM
Is this a joke?
on โ03-01-2016 11:08 PM
Watch the video of them explaining why they are doing this
I think you are going too much on definitions of words rather than
listening to what these men want.
Agreed, not the best way to go about it.
But like I said they sound like the cattlemen of the High Country here in Vic
who just want to do what their families have done for generations.
Not bloodthirsty terrorists.
on โ03-01-2016 11:14 PM
on โ03-01-2016 11:43 PM
Oh I get it.
She's trying to make out that white ppl can be terrorists just as much as the bloke in the Lindt Cafe siege and the Charlie Hebdo killings and the ppl in the Paris killings.
Yeah right.
on โ03-01-2016 11:56 PM
Sophistry springs to mind. I was genuinely distressed reading the thread title. A cousin of mine was injured in the Paris attacks.
โ04-01-2016 03:45 AM - edited โ04-01-2016 03:47 AM
It's funny really...........had those ARMED militants been shouting "Allah akbar" and wearing keffiyeh instead cowboy hats, their CS supporters would have little problem calling them terrorists. Just because they speak English doesn't make them "good guys". This is the second confrontation in Oregon between "vigilantes" and the Federal government. The ranchers were convicted by their peers of arson, with sufficient evidence, including eyewitnesses, to make it stick. Whether you agree with the sentence or not, you do not have the right to seize Federal property. I would love to see the wholesale confiscation of weapons from the malcontents, and a substantial fine imposed. You don't come to a peaceful protest loaded for war.
โ04-01-2016 04:35 AM - edited โ04-01-2016 04:40 AM
It is funny.
You respond to my post, with a political diatribe, aimed at unspecified CS posters, which has no bearing upon the content of mine.
Throughout history, there have been terrorists of all creeds.
Your thread title, is a mockery to those of any nationality who have been wounded or killed by terrorist acts.
โ04-01-2016 04:50 AM - edited โ04-01-2016 04:52 AM
I was objecting to the thread title your post has, I know you didn't start the thread ๐
of course there have been incidents of non-Islamic terrorism. This thread isn't an example of one. The title, was horrifying.