on 03-01-2016 06:20 PM
on 04-01-2016 02:58 PM
@serendipityricho wrote:The high country cattlemen using the area were stopped by
well meaning greenies from the city-not knowing how it all worked.
Still have a bumper sticker----alpine grazing-reduces blazing..............................Richo.
Richo, I read a comment from a cattleman who said
the scrub was so thick, a dog couldn't bark
04-01-2016 03:00 PM - edited 04-01-2016 03:02 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:Many black American are demanding what they see as justice for Tamir Rice. If a group of such protestors were to arm themselves, barricade themselves inside a public building and threaten violence if the police tried to remove them. How long would they be left alive to protest and how would they be described in public media?
I dont understand.
This hasnt happened, right? Its conjecture...
Are you doing research?
on 04-01-2016 03:10 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:and
you posted the thread yesterday
and the article in HERALD SUN (Newscorp, Murdoch Press)
is less than an hour old so you couldn't have
seen it there.
Yesterday I posted a thread entitled Another Terrorist Attack In US It indicted my belief that thie incident was an act of terrorism and I provided a link to a news page to provide the facts and show why I held that opinion. Today, the Sun Herald has published an article providing even more detailed facts and agreeing with my opinion. Since the Sun Herald is in the Muedoch stable and could not be described by even the mosst rabid 'right wingers' as representing the 'loony left' I feel my opinion has been somewhat vindicated.
Stawka disagrees with my opinion and that of the Sun Herald and has provided her own lllinks to show why she disagrees On that basis she and I are abe to have an intelligent debate without resorting to personal innuendo. Stawka did ask me if I had watched the video, but you will notice that at no time has either of us accused the othe of not checking our sources or of relying on social media for our opinions
on 04-01-2016 03:12 PM
04-01-2016 03:13 PM - edited 04-01-2016 03:15 PM
What I'm most ticked off about, is that I got sucked in by the OP having a link
that I thought was incorrect.
Sick of belabouring the point.
This time I'm outta here and staying away
edit to she ele: don't believe in name calling to win a debate/argument
on 04-01-2016 03:20 PM
Oops activated reply button before engaging tyoing fingers
on 04-01-2016 03:26 PM
One time--any further info is availalble from the Mountain Cattlemens Association or
their magazine..Voice of the mountains-that has been produced since
the early 1980s--recommended reading..........................................................................Richo.
on 04-01-2016 03:34 PM
from your link:
150 domestic terrorists take over a fed building. Can only assume there's wall-to-wall cable news coverage, right? Oh.
A Bundy family member told local media there are 150 people in the group occupying the wildlife refuge in Oregon, but nearby reporters say the number of men is likely closer to 15.
so which one is it?
the herald sun published this story
in their 'law and order' section.
the story is about the social media's
response to the media's reporting about
the protest, quoting a few tweets.
the fact is - there has not been another
terrorist attack in the US (thank God)
And if the names of these militants were Mohamed or Habib instead of Bundy would anyone doubt that they were terrorists?,
the san bernardino shooters,
despite of having names of arabic origin,
were NOT considered as terrorists until
their motives became known.
04-01-2016 03:37 PM - edited 04-01-2016 03:41 PM
@this-one-time-at-bandcamp wrote:It is readily apparent that the citizens of Burns, Oregon don't agree with you. A peaceful protest doesn't require the protestors be armed, and willing to kill "if provoked". Their seizing of Federal property was a provocation instigated by these very same ARMED thugs.
Oh, and I don't pay any attention to whom I am replying to, I just hit "reply" to the post above mine..........and if you can't determine the individuals I was referring to, that's your loss..........naming names generates "interpersonal dispute" sanctions.
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Not paying attention, often creates disputes.
The use of the word "terrorism", as said further in this thread, needs to be approached carefully. It has a meaning, and there is, a reaction, that is clearly set by previous acts of killing. A protest, has a different meaning and generates a different emotional response. To any reasonable person, the thread title can mean another 9/11 just happened. Think about that, and see the difference.
on 04-01-2016 04:48 PM
@youcandoityoucandoityoucandoit wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:Many black American are demanding what they see as justice for Tamir Rice. If a group of such protestors were to arm themselves, barricade themselves inside a public building and threaten violence if the police tried to remove them. How long would they be left alive to protest and how would they be described in public media?
I dont understand.
This hasnt happened, right? Its conjecture...
Are you doing research?
maybe I should have emphasised the IF and WERE TO and added more question marks. Since I can't recall an incident where a group of armed black activists has ever barricaded themselves inside a government owned building and threatened violence against the police if they tried to temove them, of course it has to be conjecture - but but for those who maintain this current incident is not an act of terrorism it is nevertheless, perhaps, a question worth considering