Any rose experts out there?

[i-need-a-martini]

My favourite garden rose has bloomed profusedly this week but it isn't my favourite rose that is blooming - it is the stock that it is planted on. Pretty enough but not what I want.

I've just had a good look at it and there is only one stem of the rose I want and multiples of the stock this rose is grafted to. Obviously I have stuffed up somehow when I cut the rose back in winter.

Question is - what do I do now? Do I wait for winter and cut back all the stuff I don't want. My only problem then is I may not be able to see which rose is which plus I am worried that by then the graft stock will have taken over completely. Or do I bite the bullet and cut the rose back now in summer to get rid of everything I don't want?

[happyroo_bunji]

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@imastawka wrote:

 Hah!  I win......I can also kill 'em.  My method is called pruning!

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Oh I do that too...with an axe or saw

[j-au976]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

My favourite garden rose has bloomed profusedly this week but it isn't my favourite rose that is blooming - it is the stock that it is planted on. Pretty enough but not what I want.

I've just had a good look at it and there is only one stem of the rose I want and multiples of the stock this rose is grafted to. Obviously I have stuffed up somehow when I cut the rose back in winter.

Question is - what do I do now? Do I wait for winter and cut back all the stuff I don't want. My only problem then is I may not be able to see which rose is which plus I am worried that by then the graft stock will have taken over completely. Or do I bite the bullet and cut the rose back now in summer to get rid of everything I don't want?

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rip it out and plant a drought hardy native.

roses need too much water and get eaten all the time.

if you want to grow roses go and live in england.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@j-au976 wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

My favourite garden rose has bloomed profusedly this week but it isn't my favourite rose that is blooming - it is the stock that it is planted on. Pretty enough but not what I want.

I've just had a good look at it and there is only one stem of the rose I want and multiples of the stock this rose is grafted to. Obviously I have stuffed up somehow when I cut the rose back in winter.

Question is - what do I do now? Do I wait for winter and cut back all the stuff I don't want. My only problem then is I may not be able to see which rose is which plus I am worried that by then the graft stock will have taken over completely. Or do I bite the bullet and cut the rose back now in summer to get rid of everything I don't want?

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rip it out and plant a drought hardy native.

roses need too much water and get eaten all the time.

if you want to grow roses go and live in england.

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Roses ARE drought tolerant. In 5 years of living here I have never watered the roses.

[j-au976]

so what then? just let it grow as you would with a native.

if it lives fine, if it's not hardy enough why bother?

[i-need-a-martini]

Thanks all. 

Erica I did as you said. The problem is that the shoots are coming from under the soil from the roots rather than on the grafted section of the shaft.

And I can't dig it out as it is in a rockery. I'll just have to keep an eye and get rid of the shoots as I see them.

And I WILL have to take a cutting because the rose is unidentifiable apparently and I am worried I will lose it. Even Swanes couldn't identify the flower for me.

Any tips on how to take a rose cutting? I've never done this before.

[bushies.girl]

If else fails the people may be able to help you, they are the roase experts  ...... Treloar Roses     ... sorry I don't know how to add a link to their webpage

[j-au976]

alright then if you insist on keeping that pesky pommy thing in your garden:

you need a razor, alcohol to sterilise it and some tape.

you need to keep it as sterile as possible.

after you grafted it on, keep it out of the wind (put a plastic bag around it with holes so it does not rot but also does not dry out).

do it in mild weather. no 40 degree day.

probably it would be good to have a root stock in a pot and then graft it onto that so you can take it inside in strong winds but don't have to put on a plastic bag which will probably make it rot.

roses like air, wind otherwise they get mouldy.

cuttings/grafts do not like wind because it drys them out.

[amber-eyed-girl]

There are various ways. Some people take a cutting then grow the roots in a potato, then put it into a tub later. Others coat the cut in honey and straight into the ground.

[j-au976]

there are sterile band aid like things in the pharmacy whose name i forgot but they are expensive and also stretchy.

they cost about $5 a piece or more but if you love that thing so much I guess you would want to spend that given that you have only one chance until autumn when it is mild enough again to try.

[j-au976]

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@amber-eyed-girl wrote:

There are various ways. Some people take a cutting thrm grow the roots in a potato, then put it into a tub later. Others coat the cut in honey and straight into the ground.

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if you take a cutting from that rose and stick it into the ground yoy will get the weak root system that comes with it.

that is why things are being grafted to (wild) root stock. pretty flowees but weak roots so you take the top (pretty flowers) and graft it onto a strong root (usually a wild form).

that is the whole point of grafting.