Anyone else into seeking their ancestors?

[darksideofthemoon]

I have become adicted to Ancestry.com and am lucky enough that one side of my family can be researched way back into the dim times.

The other side has hit a brick wall and I have to wait until someone else in the world may have more information.

How is everyone else going?

[punch*drunk]

setipus, I messaged you a while back. I was able to download a much clearer copy of the service record. I deleted it last week, but I'm sure I could find it again pretty easily if you want it.

Just message me with your email address.

In case you arent aware, messages from the boards wont come to your email address, the show as a little envelope beside your user name.

kaya, I will send you my email address too.

[punch*drunk]

This thought just came into my head.

I remember my dad Stanley Rostron once telling me that he was never allowed to call his grandfather anything other than Mr Hird.

So if that helps in any way, to trace further back, at least its a name to search thatmay help in relation to my Rostron back ground.

This just doesnt make sense. His grandparents were Rostron & Lumb.

I can find a marriage between a Rostron & Hird, but the dates arent right. He could be an uncle or something? Unless there is a second marriage somewhere along the line?

The name Hange that I mentioned earlier has been transcribed badly, so i am working on figuring our what it should have been. Its possibly Hardy? I'm not sure yet, but that would still make Mr Hardy a great grandparent and really old by the time Stanley was born.

[flashie*]

Punch....I am happy to do the Lumb side........when we figure out which Elsie Lumb she is.

If the marriage and census is correct that you found then that rules out the Elsie Lumb with the father Frank.....as she is still living with them in the 1911 census.

I wont be able to do the search for a few days though......hubby has coughed his "man flu" germs on me.....*cough*

[punch*drunk]

Good morning flashie 🙂 Hope you start feeling better soon.

Ok, I'll concentrate on the Rostrons. I think we need kaya to verify where she got the information about Elsie's parents and whether it cam from a reliable source or if it was the only one she could find that fits.

The Mr Hird thing is doing my head in, I just cant make it fit.

[flashie*]

I have been able to 100% rule out the Elsie Lumb that is the child of Frank Lumb (Francis).......she married in 1915 in Yorkshire to Grey.

[punch*drunk]

Thought you were sick....get back to bed 😄

UHM to your new addy flashie.

[flashie*]

Kaya......I suggest you purchase the marriage certificate of James Rostron and Elsie Lumb.....it is the only way of knowing for sure who the parents are.....it would cost 9 pound 25.

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi

Or it can be ordered through here with the following details......

James Rostron married Elsie Lumb 1911 Lancashire

district Prestwich volume 8d page 300

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

[flashie*]

Punch ....how are you going with your Rostrons.

I am no further with Elsie Lumb.....I can only presume that they have made an error on the 1911 census.

We are sure we have the right marriage.....so Elsies surname has to be Lumb.

There is no Elsie Lumb born between 1860 and 1920 in Leeds.

[flashie*]

I am at a loss on where to search next.

I can not find a matching birth for Elsie Lumb.

If she was born in Lancashire as Kaya thinks then the marriage to James Rostron you found Punch is incorrect. (1911 census)

I guess until Kaya has a chance to pop back in I am going to have to put this search aside.

[***kaya***renae***]

Just popping in to say hello again 🙂

I tried to get Elsie and James marriage certificate but the page wouldn't let me click on anything to pay, so I gave up.

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I'm pretty sure William Thomas Lumb was Elsie's dad and his mum was Alice Ann Lumb nee Worrall from Chadderton in Manchester.

My 83 yr old Mum came to visit today so I quizzed her about James Rostron who was her father in law.

She told me that he died before she married my dad in 1929

so she never met him at all. She said Elsie Rostron nee Lumb was a hard woman who lived in Barrington st in Clayton a suburb of Manchester.

They didn't emigrate to Oz, they lived in the UK all their lives.

It was 1966 when my own family of 5 came to Australia.

The Rostrons are out there in their thousands so they are very hard to chase up.

James Rostron was an auto mechanic as well as a drunk, my Mum said he died of sirrosis of the liver.

Elsie owned a shop in Manchester and supported herself all her life.

Mum said she died in about 1953 ?? and never saw my baby sister who was born in 1954.

I don't understand the Hird. Herd. Hurd. Heard side of the family apart from what my own father told me during the 70's when he said he could only ever call his grandad Mr Hird or Mr Hurd

I should have asked Dad how the name was spelt.

So much info missing and Mum at 83 has difficulty recalling a lot about the past. Although she did tell me today that the Rostrons lived at 107 Barrington St in Clayton Manchester.