Baden Clay Trial

[azureline**]

Allison Baden Clay Murder 2 years ago

I was reading up on this today, as the trial started Monday.

The senior Baden Clay was on the stand today and gave evidence about something his wife told him about his daughter in law..................................I thought they usually objected and called that heresay?

Don't they do that in Australia? have I watched too many American crime shows?

[cherry*135]

I wonder if because what he said about her in court (not complimentary - fiery temper etc) was untrue, so she wants to set the record straight. I sort of understand that.

[azureline**]

Of course she is being paid! she needs it, has children to support. Who would employ her now?

Yes, she is guilty of having an affair with a married man but really, she has not been implicated in Allison's death so I can't see an issue.

[cherry*135]

I just looked up Keli Lanes (convicted of murder on circumstantial evidence) appeal. I didn't realise it was heard and dismissed last December.

This was a ground for her appeal.

"Her appeal, argued by Winston Terracini SC before a full bench of the Court of Criminal Appeal in July, included a ground that the jury should have been instructed to consider returning a verdict on the lesser charge of manslaughter.

Mr Terracini says the jury "should have at least had available to them to consider the lesser crime".

Mr Terracini said manslaughter could have been explored by a jury if they believed Lane had caused Tegan's death through gross negligence or an unlawful and dangerous act, but hadn't had the intention of killing her.

He said it was "a fairly significant leap" to assume Lane murdered Tegan in those hours.

But the argument has been rejected by Chief Justice Tom Bathurst and Justice Carolyn Simpson and Christine Adamson."



The Judge covered the manslaughter aspect in this trial.

[purple_haize]

She is only guilty of having an affair with him, nothing else.

He is a liar, and anything he said about her may not be true at all...........to me, he was all tangled up in his own lies.

[azureline**]

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@am*3 wrote:
I just looked up Keli Lanes (convicted of murder on circumstantial evidence) appeal. I didn't realise it was heard and dismissed last December.

This was a ground for her appeal.

"Her appeal, argued by Winston Terracini SC before a full bench of the Court of Criminal Appeal in July, included a ground that the jury should have been instructed to consider returning a verdict on the lesser charge of manslaughter.

Mr Terracini says the jury "should have at least had available to them to consider the lesser crime".

Mr Terracini said manslaughter could have been explored by a jury if they believed Lane had caused Tegan's death through gross negligence or an unlawful and dangerous act, but hadn't had the intention of killing her.

He said it was "a fairly significant leap" to assume Lane murdered Tegan in those hours.

But the argument has been rejected by Chief Justice Tom Bathurst and Justice Carolyn Simpson and Christine Adamson."



The Judge covered the manslaughter aspect in this trial.

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I am a bit surprised too. I am not sure of her guilt

[freddie*rooster]

Here's another interesting story.

http://www.smh.com.au/queensland/badenclay-witness-once-coconspirator-in-us-killing-20140715-zt7xu.h...

[purple_haize]

Good grief Freddie,  very interesting.

[jvharrison]

Justice served for Allison RIP

Be very interesting to know who paid for the murderers trial and all the legal team seeing he had no money and was continually hunting up loans would it be the long suffering tax payers that paid for the trial ?

[azureline**]

Legal Aid, no secret about that.