Boat arrivals

[*crikey*mate*]

Have any unauthorized boats carrying people with the intent to seek asylum in Australia arrived in the past few weeks?

[*crikey*mate*]

People were complaining because he didn't stop the boats.

Now, for four weeks he has stopped the boats and people are still complaining about that

People need to make up their minds whether they want the boats stopped or not.

People wanted the boats stopped.

The boats have stopped.

That's what they wanted

Thats what they got

and they still complain.

Perhaps people should have thought about the ramifications of stopping the boats before they put so much pressure on it to happen, if they didn't want them stopped.

[izabsmiling]

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@silverfaun wrote:

Update on the figures:  people transiting Indonesia to access criminal people traffickers 1600 to 250. Still no boats for a month.

This equals very good news for people waiting in putrid camps, no drownings and detention centres closing.

This means more help for the people, we could even start to increase our aid budget.

Now I can't see why anybody could possibly have a problem with that unless they are heartless barrackers for the thousands who perished on criminal people smugglers boats.

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you missed this post Crikey*Mate ....and a few others .

[*crikey*mate*]

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@just_me_karen wrote:
If you knew that, why did you ask?

I don't think they counted the two that arrived on other coastal areas?

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I didn't know, but now I do, thanks to this thread.

Could you please show me these other two?

I am interested.

[donnashuggy]

The ocean is very big apparently 🙂 the libs only just realized that once elected.

Nobody can claim a darn thing when it comes to boat arrivals.

[silverfaun]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

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@silverfaun wrote:

Update on the figures:  people transiting Indonesia to access criminal people traffickers 1600 to 250. Still no boats for a month.

This equals very good news for people waiting in putrid camps, no drownings and detention centres closing.

This means more help for the people, we could even start to increase our aid budget.

Now I can't see why anybody could possibly have a problem with that unless they are heartless barrackers for the thousands who perished on criminal people smugglers boats.

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you missed this post Crikey*Mate ....and a few others .

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'Why are you re posting my posts????? I believe what you are doing is against CS guidlines.

[izabsmiling]

The question is where Australia is intercepting these boats.

Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, Australia can only stop boats within its territorial and contiguous zones (24 nautical miles from the Australian shore). It cannot board vessels outside this area without permission.

International obligations also forbid unseaworthy vessels to be cast to their fate.

So if these boats are being intercepted outside of Australian waters, how can Australian patrols then board them, determine their seaworthiness, and decide the refugee status of passengers?

Furthermore, as a signatory to UN conventions on refugees, Australia must adhere to the principle of non-refoulement, which entails avoiding sending people to countries that do not acknowledge legal refugee status, such as Indonesia.

Canberra has, unsurprisingly, again looked to its Big Brother, the United States, as an example in its turning away of boats from Cuba. But Washington is not a signatory of many maritime international norms that Canberra has ceded to.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/01/13/moeldoko-s-boatpeople-clinker-recalcitrant-nescient-or...

If there have been turnbacks or towbacks ......is that not a problem ?

[*crikey*mate*]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

The question is where Australia is intercepting these boats.

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No, that wasn't the question at all.

This was the question

Boat arrivals

Options

on ‎13-01-2014 12:11 PM

Have any unauthorized boats carrying people with the intent to seek asylum in Australia arrived in the past few weeks?

[silverfaun]

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@donnashuggy wrote:

The ocean is very big apparently 🙂 the libs only just realized that once elected.

Nobody can claim a darn thing when it comes to boat arrivals.

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huh????

[silverfaun]

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@crikey*mate wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

The question is where Australia is intercepting these boats.

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No, that wasn't the question at all.

This was the question

Boat arrivals

Options

on ‎13-01-2014 12:11 PM

Have any unauthorized boats carrying people with the intent to seek asylum in Australia arrived in the past few weeks?

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zero boat arrivals in  the past month but this is making some very angry lol.

[izabsmiling]

Australia warned about asylum seeker boat push-backs

13th Jan 2014

Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s objective to “stop the boats” rings clear. But ask him specific questions on Operation Sovereign Borders and you’ll be met with deafening silence.

Latest reports have revealed that the Australian Navy recently turned back one or more asylum seeker boats towards Indonesia. A boat was found just before Christmas on an island called Rote in Indonesia's East Nusa Tenggara region. It was then allegedly forced back into Indonesian waters. Mr. Abbott argues that his policy of “turn-arounds” is not the same as “turn-backs.” However, Refugee Action Coalition spokesperson Ian Rintoul argues that there is no real difference between the two. The decision to turn boats back has caused concern amongst other political groups for its potential to further damage Australia’s shaky relationship with Indonesia.

The United Nations Refugee Agency has also spoken out against the decision, warning that it may breach international law. The UN High Commissioner on Refugees has asked the federal government for an explanation of the practice. Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Immigration Minister Scott Morrison have so far refused to comment on reports that the Australian navy and customs turned back as many as five boats in the past month. There have also been allegations that Australian border protection personnel mistreated the asylum seekers found on board the boats that were turned back.

These claims are currently under investigation.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/01/13/345387/australia-warned-about-asylum-seeker-boat-pushbacks/