COVID-19 Story that will make you smile...NOT.

[Anonymous]

Some fool called this a conspiracy theory. To me a lot of valid points were made.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2020/04/15/covid-19-lockdown-a-deal-with-the-devi...

[lionrose.7]

I am not a Oldie or Elderly  I am a woman of mature age 🙂

[chameleon54]

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@tasfleur wrote:

I could take this thread seriously if only posters would be more respectful towards senior citizens and stop referring to them as just "oldies". 

The labelling of that kind of categorisation, in my opinion, is disrespectful and tends to lean towards a deliberate indifference to them in general society.   Senior people are as significantly important as those who are younger, and certainly as deserving if not now, at their time of life, more so.

I don't need or expect anyone to agree with me .... 

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Every one to their own. One person may be offended by some thing that to another is a term of endearment and in todays society it seems that everyone must be offended by something all of the time.

I personally view the term " oldies ' as a generic description of a group of people based on age, similar to ' kindy kids " Baby Boomers" Tweens " etc. Sure not all oldies are the same and their life experiences and what they have to offer society is as varied as the people in the group.

I will be an " oldie " soon and I hope I can embrace old age and go with the flow,  rather than trying to fight against it, kidding myself I,m still young or young at heart when in reality I,m just old. I,m already finding I cant do all of the things I could do five years ago and are simply making small adjustments as I go along and acccepting I,m starting to slow down, with retirement not far away whether I like it or not..

I think what has more merit in whether a word is insulting or offensive is the intent of those who use it. This is shown very clearly in indiginous culture. I doubt that many Australians would dream of using the "N" word to describe indiginous Australians, but many young Aborigines use the term amongst themsleves as a result of the American rap music influence. Likewise the term " mob ". The word " mob " to me is used to describe a group of animals such as Sheep or Kangaroos. To use this term to describe a group of  people based on ethnicity seems demeaning and derogatory to me, but anyone who has watched NITV would know that many Aborigines use this word as a term of inclusiveness and community to describe themselves.

Often a term is only offensive if it is meant that way.

[*kazumi*]

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@Anonymous wrote: verified.

If we are going to blame anyone it should be the WHO.

Taiwan tried to let the world know ( via the WHO ) but the WHO didn't want to step on Big Daddy's toes.

This was in late December 2019.

If China was complicit in gagging the WHO then one hopes ( for whatever practical good it will  do )

that some form of punitive action will be taken ( and NOT a bloody war ).

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Who do you think the WHO is?  There is number of Americans plus other countries representatives, and they were reporting back home and all what was happening.  There is evidence that WH was fully informed back in December.  But Trump did not want possibility of pandemic to affect the stock market, and when he could no longer totally ignore the situation, he started to talk about democrat's conspiracy, and then how "it" will go away.  The WHO was issuing statements that were appropriate to the situation as it was developing.  Sadly the people working for WHO are not clairvoyant.  But even if nobody said anything, the fact that early January China was building 2 emergency hospitals with thousands of beds in less than 2 weeks, which was widely reported, should have been enough warning for the world at large even if nothing else was said.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-01/cartoon-posted-by-chinese-govt-takes-swipe-at-uss-slow-response/12205518?nw=0

[tasfleur]

Chameleon, an offensive term is indeed in the eye and sensitivity of those it is targeted towards.

Perhaps I should make it a little clearer and compress my opinion into where the term "oldies" becomes less than complimentary or endearing.

It is when it becomes "lock up the oldies" that generates a new meaning to the intention and nastiness that is shaped around it, no more no less.

No problem with good natured and loving term of "oldies",  just a problem with "lets lock them up"

[*kazumi*]

This is an excellent summary of the whole situation:

https://qr.ae/pNyMcm 

[icyfroth]

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FGS!  It's about  Covid and how it affecsts older ppl !

Not about whether we call them "olidies", or seniors or over 50s or whatever !

Geez!

[tasfleur]

It's about whatever people want to discuss in an open forum that evolves around the thread subject .. not about what you exclusively demand Icy .. 

[icyfroth]

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@tasfleur wrote:

Chameleon, an offensive term is indeed in the eye and sensitivity of those it is targeted towards.

Perhaps I should make it a little clearer and compress my opinion into where the term "oldies" becomes less than complimentary or endearing.

It is when it becomes "lock up the oldies" that generates a new meaning to the intention and nastiness that is shaped around it, no more no less.

No problem with good natured and loving term of "oldies",  just a problem with "lets lock them up"

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In the bigger pictuere, the term "oldies"kind of paints a different  picture.

Lockdown the oldies,don't let them pass on their vulnerabillities, let alone the old ways, traditions, history.. Let the New World Order rewrite history without the annoying memoires of those still living.

After all, they're the only (Aus) generation that sarificed themselves in the cause of freedom for future generations. 

Lets just scorn the old whities that built Australia into such a desirable commodity that makes it so profitable for foreign investment.

I have no problem with the term "oldies"

[icyfroth]

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@tasfleur wrote:

It's about whatever people want to discuss in an open forum that evolves around the thread subject .. not about what you exclusively demand Icy .. 

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Neither is it about whatever you happen to find offensive or not, Tas...

[tasfleur]

I have no problem with the term "oldies" either.   The game changer is when the term is abused and used to categorise something harmless and friendly into something harmful and not a little dangerous ..  ie "lock up the oldies".

"Lockdown the oldies,don't let them pass on their vulnerabillities, let alone the old ways, traditions, history.. Let the New World Order rewrite history without the annoying memoires of those still living.

After all, they're the only (Aus) generation that sarificed themselves in the cause of freedom for future generations. 

Lets just scorn the old whities that built Australia into such a desirable commodity that makes it so profitable for foreign investment"

That is out of context and is an over reaction.   There is no other poster twisting the subject so dramatically.

I am surprised the subject has made you so angry, there should not be such animosity ...