Carlton Sued under 18C Racial Vilification

[lightningdance]

Many Australians were wondering why Carlton the rabid racist,  was allowed to continue his rants against the Jewish population for so long.

Section 18C of the act makes it unlawful anything that is reasonably likely to offend, insult, humiliate or intimated groups of people on the grounds of race, ethnicity or national origin.

The Herald’s editorial position supported the retention of 18C, and many columnists were also sympathetic to its cause.

So the Herald Sun backed the retention of 18c, a direct assault on free speech but it has now come  home to roost for them. Poetic justice perhaps.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/print/c-used-to-sue-mike-carlton-for-racial-vilification/story...

[i-need-a-martini]

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@lightningdance wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Well I suspect that this case will be thrown out before you can even say "boo" for being a total waste of time and Wayne Karlen will have wasted a lot of money on lawyers fees for nothing.

And lightning I suggest you reread 18c as I am not sure you have a total understanding of what it means and how it (does not) apply in this case. 

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It's not up to me to explain to you what 18c means.

The left on here and in the Labor party and minorities  have fought tooth and nail to keep this section because it shut AB up and they rejoiced when he was convicted. He was convicted  because of "the tone" of his article rather than vilifying anyone.

It's not up to me to explain to you or anyone else who wishes to comment on the "topic" how or what the complainants have sought through the law.

It's up to the law to put this case to trial and come to a conclusion. Just like they did with the Bolt case.

I see there are many on here saying the complaint "doesn't have a leg to stand on"  so you have all tried this case and posted your verdicts?? Well I wonder why we have a judiciary at all then, we'll just let all the knowledgeable lawmakers  on here deal with it..

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Are you kidding? Bolt NAMED each and every person he accused on not being "aboriginal" enough. He listed them by NAME. And then he accused them of using their "pretend" race for gain.

That is why he was CHARGED.

Carlton commented on a war between two religions occurring currently.

As I said, perhaps it would help if you understood what 18C is there for and who it is there to protect.

[***super_nova***]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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It's not up to me to explain to you or anyone else who wishes to comment on the "topic" how or what the complainants have sought through the law.

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As I said, perhaps it would help if you understood what 18C is there for and who it is there to protect.

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.... and  that there are ample safeguards to our freedom of speech in 18D

[boris1gary]

very good article in New Matilda

https://newmatilda.com/2014/08/15/anti-semitism-rightly-condemned-wheres-outrage-attacks-muslims

Anti-Semitism Rightly Condemned, But Where's The Outrage At Attacks On Muslims?

Writing in New Matilda, Mr Brull said “none of us should accept the moral blackmail that opposing Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is a form of anti-Semitism.”

“Such an argument is based on the premise that the rights of Jews in the West is somehow more important than the rights of Palestinians under occupation.

“There is no reason that one cannot support the rights of Jews and Palestinians equally, and this should be the position of everyone.”

[lakeedge]

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@boris1gary wrote:

very good article in New Matilda

https://newmatilda.com/2014/08/15/anti-semitism-rightly-condemned-wheres-outrage-attacks-muslims

Anti-Semitism Rightly Condemned, But Where's The Outrage At Attacks On Muslims?

Writing in New Matilda, Mr Brull said “none of us should accept the moral blackmail that opposing Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is a form of anti-Semitism.”

“Such an argument is based on the premise that the rights of Jews in the West is somehow more important than the rights of Palestinians under occupation.

“There is no reason that one cannot support the rights of Jews and Palestinians equally, and this should be the position of everyone.”

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The new matilda?? isn't that the magazine who got that young woman to hack into students files so they could then attack Abbott and his daughter??  the consequences  being  the young woman is now criminally charged by poliice and her career ruined?

If so then it is a magazine that has an agenda and not any agenda we should be pandering to.

[debra9275]

it is a good article Boris and I think he's a brave man.The  kind of threats he's getting, well I've seen similar elsewhere on the net over the same sort of issues

[boris1gary]

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@micasheen wrote:

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@boris1gary wrote:

very good article in New Matilda

https://newmatilda.com/2014/08/15/anti-semitism-rightly-condemned-wheres-outrage-attacks-muslims

Anti-Semitism Rightly Condemned, But Where's The Outrage At Attacks On Muslims?

Writing in New Matilda, Mr Brull said “none of us should accept the moral blackmail that opposing Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is a form of anti-Semitism.”

“Such an argument is based on the premise that the rights of Jews in the West is somehow more important than the rights of Palestinians under occupation.

“There is no reason that one cannot support the rights of Jews and Palestinians equally, and this should be the position of everyone.”

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The new matilda?? isn't that the magazine who got that young woman to hack into students files so they could then attack Abbott and his daughter??  the consequences  being  the young woman is now criminally charged by poliice and her career ruined?

If so then it is a magazine that has an agenda and not any agenda we should be pandering to.

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pandering? there does seem to be a lot of "pandering" about, not from New Matilda though - did you mean the UnAustralian and the Daily Telesmear?

[karliandjacko]

Who said NM asked her to hack into anything.  It's the publication the information was given to.  There was no suggestion that they asked her to hack into the system.

[boris1gary]

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@karliandjacko wrote:

Who said NM asked her to hack into anything.  It's the publication the information was given to.  There was no suggestion that they asked her to hack into the system.

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maybe the telesmear said it, of course it's completely untrue but they do like to pander to idle gossip and smear campaigns.

[boris1gary]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/sayed-kashua-why-i-have-to-leave-israel

Sayed Kashua: why I have to leave Israel

The Arab-Israeli author moved to Jerusalem as a child and has devoted his life to telling Israelis the Palestinian story. But last week he decided to emigrate with his family to the US

Twenty-five years that I am writing and knowing bitter criticism from both sides, but last week I gave up. Last week something inside of me broke. When Jewish youth parade through the city shouting "Death to the Arabs," and attack Arabs only because they are Arabs, I understood that I had lost my little war.