Coronavirus update

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Coronavirus update: Formula One Grand Prix called off, Trump announces travel ban, Tom Hanks tests positive

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/coronavirus-live-updates-mclaren-lewis-hamilton-travel-ban/12...

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@*kazumi* wrote:

Is anybody else sick of Scomo popping up on TV just to tell us what a great job he is doing?  Just like Trump; does he really think that if he tell us often enough we actually believe it? 
This afternoon I settled down with my Knitting to watch a house restoration in Ireland, when "Breaking News" interrupts the program, but it is just Scomo, repeating pretty much the same as he said yesterday.  Yes, i know we are in better situation than most countries, bu that has nothing to do with the government's efforts. 

And I still have not been able to get the flu shot.  Our chemist told me they have not received any this year yet.  The doctor either had them once and ran out, or did not have them at all, or keep getting them and running out immediately.  

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What an odd post. You and your kudos friends must really hate the guy. I feel exactly the opposite to you. I am grateful for his guidance and direction and for the achievements we have made so far under his direction. I don't think he is anything like Trump, who constantly talks about himself and the economy, not the tragic number of dead Americans. Who do you think we should thank for the progress we have made in trying to control this virus? The Chinese?

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@*kazumi* wrote:

  Yes, i know we are in better situation than most countries, bu that has nothing to do with the government's efforts. 

Then by what miracle did the social distancing,the quarantining,etc come into place?

The federal Government has been fine in dealing with the virus and it's the people that aren't doing

the right thing and some decisions by state governments that are putting everyone else at risk.

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The federal government started quite well, quarantining people from the ship in Japan, and then banning people from China, but they were too slow acting on people coming back from Italy, and totally failed dealing with the fact that both UK and America were fast becoming leaders in the infection rates.  Most of the infections we have here came from the USA, UK and Italy.  People coming back should have been quarantined  like the 1st and second lot were.  Or at least temperatures should have been checked on arrival. People returning from China were thoroughly checked before they left China, and then spent  2 weeks locked up.  If we kept that up, we could have avoided the present situation.        

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@icyfroth wrote:

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What is it with the Chinese? They can't just kill cows, sheep and pigs to eat like we do?

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Most Chinese people just eat chicken or pork.  Number of Australians go hunting and eat wildlife what they kill.  I even heard of people who will eat road kill. 

[davewil1964]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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@go-tazz wrote:

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@*kazumi* wrote:

  Yes, i know we are in better situation than most countries, bu that has nothing to do with the government's efforts. 

Then by what miracle did the social distancing,the quarantining,etc come into place?

The federal Government has been fine in dealing with the virus and it's the people that aren't doing

the right thing and some decisions by state governments that are putting everyone else at risk.

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The federal government started quite well, quarantining people from the ship in Japan, and then banning people from China, but they were too slow acting on people coming back from Italy, and totally failed dealing with the fact that both UK and America were fast becoming leaders in the infection rates.  Most of the infections we have here came from the USA, UK and Italy.  People coming back should have been quarantined  like the 1st and second lot were.  Or at least temperatures should have been checked on arrival. People returning from China were thoroughly checked before they left China, and then spent  2 weeks locked up.  If we kept that up, we could have avoided the present situation.        

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25% of the deaths have been directly related to the Ruby Princess. That is a fact, but it doesn't support your paradigm, so I guess it must be wrong.

[davewil1964]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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What is it with the Chinese? They can't just kill cows, sheep and pigs to eat like we do?

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Most Chinese people just eat chicken or pork.  Number of Australians go hunting and eat wildlife what they kill.  I even heard of people who will eat road kill. 

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Facts? Figures? Given that the number of Australians who have permits to own the implements necessary for hunting are few.

Your personal opinions aren't necessarily facts. You need to back your opinions up with verifiable facts if you want people to take you seriously. I don't, btw. Too much hyperbole, too little fact.

[not_for_sale2025]

Isn't hindsight wonderful. It seems many who use it are absolute experts.

[go-tazz]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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The federal government started quite well, quarantining people from the ship in Japan, and then banning people from China, but they were too slow acting on people coming back from Italy, and totally failed dealing with the fact that both UK and America were fast becoming leaders in the infection rates.  Most of the infections we have here came from the USA, UK and Italy.  People coming back should have been quarantined  like the 1st and second lot were.

That was based on what WHO told the world and it affected every country due to their incompetence

and kowtowing to China so Governments can only act on what "experts" tell them.

WHO knew about the virus by the 10th of January but it wasn't until after their "inspection" in China in

March and then later they then said to close the borders to other countries.

  Or at least temperatures should have been checked on arrival. People returning from China were thoroughly checked before they left China, and then spent  2 weeks locked up.  If we kept that up, we could have avoided the present situation.  

This one I do agree with and even weeks later there was no simple thermal scanning and travellers

coming in from overseas were still crowding in the airports.    

Most countries had people  coming from Wuhan who had the infection and China totally botched their

response as usual the same as the SARS outbreak.

The state-run Global Times newspaper said in an editorial the Government needed to disclose all information and not repeat the mistakes made with SARS.

Chinese officials covered up the SARS outbreak for weeks before a growing death toll and rumours forced them to reveal the epidemic.

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@davewil1964 wrote:

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25% of the deaths have been directly related to the Ruby Princess. That is a fact, but it doesn't support your paradigm, so I guess it must be wrong.

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Yes the Ruby Princess.  On the radio ABC this morning (sorry no links) they said because of this fiasco it could mean a spread all over the world.  I wonder if we'll ever get to the bottom of it, I doubt it, as everyone is ducking for their life.

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https://youtu.be/tDk-xF2-rIc

[springyzone]

They certainly are (ducking for cover, that is).

I think this does fit Kazumi's comment because she said our government should have kept up quarantining new arrivals. I think we should have too, regardless of where they were coming from. 14 days mandatory, supervised quarantine (at their own expense).

This idea of self isolation was always going to be a bit of a joke. Blind freddy could see half the people would pretty well ignore that if they knew they could get away with it.

Ruby Princess passengers should all have been quarantined.

But then again, we were letting people off planes too at that time and just letting them wander home where they may or may not have self isolated.

I have already mentioned it on this forum but my sister was dealing with Chinese arriving from not that far from Wuhan area and coming into their dealership, buying up Mercedes cars, within 3 or 4 days of arriving here. Meant to be in self isolation but not concerned with little details like that. The aussie dollar was down, so it makes a mercedes seem a bargain price.