Coronavirus update

Coronavirus update: Formula One Grand Prix called off, Trump announces travel ban, Tom Hanks tests positive

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/coronavirus-live-updates-mclaren-lewis-hamilton-travel-ban/12...

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I hope you are right Tazz. While the population may be smaller, the demographics of this latest S.A. outbreak bare ominous similarities with Victoria's hot spots. Low income households, poor educational literacy and numeracy skills, major public housing area and large migrant families who predominantly work in high risk occupations etc.

 

The person who appears to have originally contracted the virus as a front line worker in a COVID Australian quarantine centre and transmitted it out of that setting is part of a very large family, who,s members are predominantly front line workers in a number of " at risk " sectors. This has seen the virus already spread to aged care homes, fast food outlets, a hospital and a prison. 

 

The reaction from the S.A. government and community has been very swift and decisive. Contact tracing and testing has been accelerated, Government agencies such as Centrelink are requesting clients wait outside the building until called in, cafe patrons are voting with their feet and dining outdoors rather than inside and the line up outside our local COVID clinic is huge...........and we are only 24 hours in and 100 km. from the outbreak epicentre.

 

If the virus can be contained in a month, it will be testemant to strong leadership, not only from government, but also the S.A. health advisers who have an enviable track record in containing past outbreaks.

 

 

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With all the help they will get and the experience from Victoria on how to get it under control they should be at 0 within a month.Corny_cleaning-glasses.gif


I too hope you are right; fingers crossed.  But all it takes one infected kid attending large illegal gathering, infecting 20, who take it home to their family, who then infect their co-workers, before you know you can have hundred+ people infected, and all that before anybody gets sick and tracing starts.  😞   

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I hope you are right Tazz. While the population may be smaller, the demographics of this latest S.A. outbreak bare ominous similarities with Victoria's hot spots. Low income households, poor educational literacy and numeracy skills, major public housing area and large migrant families who predominantly work in high risk occupations etc.

 

The person who appears to have originally contracted the virus as a front line worker in a COVID Australian quarantine centre and transmitted it out of that setting is part of a very large family, who,s members are predominantly front line workers in a number of " at risk " sectors. This has seen the virus already spread to aged care homes, fast food outlets, a hospital and a prison. 

 

The reaction from the S.A. government and community has been very swift and decisive. Contact tracing and testing has been accelerated, Government agencies such as Centrelink are requesting clients wait outside the building until called in, cafe patrons are voting with their feet and dining outdoors rather than inside and the line up outside our local COVID clinic is huge...........and we are only 24 hours in and 100 km. from the outbreak epicentre.

 

If the virus can be contained in a month, it will be testemant to strong leadership, not only from government, but also the S.A. health advisers who have an enviable track record in containing past outbreaks.

 

 


https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/11/16/tim-smith-travel-to-south-australia-to-help-undermine-covid-...

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@rogespeed wrote:

@*kazumi* wrote:

So America is having close to 150 000 new cases a day (with inadequate testing) and close to 1500 dead in 24 hours, yet I have seen people still posting on FB that 'it's not really that bad' and 'not worse than flu'.  Saying to them that this death rate is like having 5 passenger planes crashing every day or having 9/11 every other day, usually shuts them up. 

I really feel for the Democrats who will have to deal with it from January.  By then it is expected there will be 400 000plus dead and hospitals totally overwhelmed.  I wonder if with so much of disaster will make lock downs palatable to American people.


US stats : Influenza : 12,000 to 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 - they seem to be used to industrial level pathogen untimely dealths hence i suppose their resistance to nationally mandated protective counter-measures 


Call it an average of 40,000. That's 0.01% of the population per annum. So far COVID has killed 6 x that (nearly 1400 in the last 24 hours), with 6 winter weeks of the year to go.

 

If they can't tell the difference, then they are probably beyond saving. Although those spreading it probably won't be the ones dying from it.



Is more complex for them to deal with - a user pays economic system and mentality - sadly so many not able to personally mitigate  - and with the winter so harsh in many high population regions 
 
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@chameleon54 wrote:

I hope you are right Tazz. While the population may be smaller, the demographics of this latest S.A. outbreak bare ominous similarities with Victoria's hot spots. Low income households, poor educational literacy and numeracy skills, major public housing area and large migrant families who predominantly work in high risk occupations etc.

 

The person who appears to have originally contracted the virus as a front line worker in a COVID Australian quarantine centre and transmitted it out of that setting is part of a very large family, who,s members are predominantly front line workers in a number of " at risk " sectors. This has seen the virus already spread to aged care homes, fast food outlets, a hospital and a prison. 

 

The reaction from the S.A. government and community has been very swift and decisive. Contact tracing and testing has been accelerated, Government agencies such as Centrelink are requesting clients wait outside the building until called in, cafe patrons are voting with their feet and dining outdoors rather than inside and the line up outside our local COVID clinic is huge...........and we are only 24 hours in and 100 km. from the outbreak epicentre.

 

If the virus can be contained in a month, it will be testemant to strong leadership, not only from government, but also the S.A. health advisers who have an enviable track record in containing past outbreaks.

 

 


https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/11/16/tim-smith-travel-to-south-australia-to-help-undermine-covid-...


How could that possibly happen given the Sydney and Melbourne calamities and professional wisdom and common sense 

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South Australia reports one new coronavirus case overnight, Premier Steven Marshall says

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-17/one-new-case-coronavirus-sa-premier-steven-marshall-says/1289...

 

from what i'm hearing and seeing via media south australians are taking this very seriously

queing all day long to get tested!

 

but, i feel the testing stations should have been open 24 hours a day

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@go-tazz wrote:

@debra9275 wrote:

it's very similar to the way the 2nd wave outbreak started in Vic...  hopefully it can be controlled quickly.


Shouldn't be a problem as they have over 3.6 million less people in Adelaide and Salibury/Elizabeth are outer

 

suburbs and they only have 379 thousand that live in the rest of that state which have low densities as it's more then four times as big as Victoria in size so it shouldn't spread as quickly as it did in Vic. good.gif

 

With all the help they will get and the experience from Victoria on how to get it under control they should be at 0 within a month.Corny_cleaning-glasses.gif


Mainly not what to do according to this article.............As I have said all along, we need honesty about the mistakes made by the Victorian administration if others are to learn from the terrible experience Victorians endured.

 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-17/what-can-sa-learn-from-victorias-coronavirus-response/1288797... 

 

South Australia has gone in hard and fast, implementing restrictions on gatherings, closing some high risk businesses, ramping up testing, isolating close contacts ( not letting them wander the streets and shops for " excercise " ) huge efforts in contact tracing, announcing all front line workers will be Covid tested weekly ( an Australian first ), delaying any new international arrivals of returning Australians and probably most important of all, removing any Covid positive patients from aged care homes and taking them to ICU.

 

South Australia was already highly active in COVID planning before this outbreak. One of my sisters is a senior nurse and was asked to go in for professional PPU fitting last week. ( before the outbreak ) SA medical staff are not just using any PPU from a box, it is tested and fitted to suit the individuals body and face shape.

 

When the first wave swept through Australia and South Australia was recording higher numbers of cases per head of population than most other states, the SA government was the first to introduce closed borders. It appears the Victorian administration still isnt taking COVID seriously. If it was it would have the border with S.A. shut now. By leaving that border open, it is risking reinfecting Victorians and going through all of the hardships of months of lockdowns again.

 

It appears almost bizarre to me that Dan Andrews would risk going through all of that again by his tardy response to the South Australian outbreak.

 

 

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In hindsight, I  agree that maybe we should've gone into lockdown a few weeks earlier, but maybe Dictator Dan didn't want all that power for whatever he's supposed to have wanted power for

 

 

 

When the first wave swept through Australia and South Australia was recording higher numbers of cases per head of population than most other states, the SA government was the first to introduce closed borders. It appears the Victorian administration still isnt taking COVID seriously. If it was it would have the border with S.A. shut now. By leaving that border open, it is risking reinfecting Victorians and going through all of the hardships of months of lockdowns again.

 

It appears almost bizarre to me that Dan Andrews would risk going through all of that again by his tardy response to the South Australian outbreak.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure that you were complaining just a few weeks ago about the border being closed Chameleon, and I'd like to point out that Victoria has never had closed borders to any state (not yet anyway)

 

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@debra9275 wrote:

In hindsight, I  agree that maybe we should've gone into lockdown a few weeks earlier, but maybe Dictator Dan didn't want all that power for whatever he's supposed to have wanted power for

 

 

 

When the first wave swept through Australia and South Australia was recording higher numbers of cases per head of population than most other states, the SA government was the first to introduce closed borders. It appears the Victorian administration still isnt taking COVID seriously. If it was it would have the border with S.A. shut now. By leaving that border open, it is risking reinfecting Victorians and going through all of the hardships of months of lockdowns again.

 

It appears almost bizarre to me that Dan Andrews would risk going through all of that again by his tardy response to the South Australian outbreak.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure that you were complaining just a few weeks ago about the border being closed Chameleon, and I'd like to point out that Victoria has never had closed borders to any state (not yet anyway)

 


Definitely not complaining Debra, just referencing those ( in particular Stawka who has Kudo'd your post) who made very direct posts, claiming I was not affected by border closures and Dan Andrews COVID response in general so had no right to comment on the issue. ( Just shows it doesnt pay to make assumptions Stawka, you really know very little about those who post here and assumptions are often wildly innacurate Man Wink

 

Like Victorians who where asked to adhere to draconian containment measures, I accepted border closures and there effect on my family as a vital strategy to controlling the spread of the virus. Like others on these forums I understood the virus was totally out of control in Victoria and harsh measures where required to contain it. I was accepting of the direct costs to my family and business of those responses.

 

I just cant get my head around the fact that during the Victorian COVID outbreak, people where not allowed to leave home, except for a few direct reasons and even then, remain within 5 km. of their home, but some-one from Salsibury Adelaide at the centre of this outbreak can hop in a car and drive through Victorian country towns, stopping for fuel and refreshments and visit relatives in Melbourne, going out to pubs for dinner, shop in the malls for Christmas goodies etc.

 

For heavens sake, Victorians have had to endure enough already. I get it that South Australia was the first state to announce re-opening its border with Victoria at day 14 of donuts, ( following the science to the letter ) but WHY would an administration risk puting Victorians through all of that again now that S.A. has had a sizable outbreak ?

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oh, I thought you said your patience had run out.. because your mother near the SA border couldn't access doctors in Vic and the impact of your selling lambs to Vic supermarkets

 

anyway, if the situation in SA gets worse (they've only reported one case so far today) we'll probably close our border to SA

 

I'd say that Andrews didn't really want to go into lockdown.. but had to as the spread here worsened...   there was plenty to be learned by the other states by what happened in Vic

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