on 24-03-2016 11:08 AM
25-03-2016 12:26 AM - edited 25-03-2016 12:27 AM
And I might just add that Paris is one of the supposed democratic free and peaceful states in the west. There is a civil war in Yemen, the so called Arab Spring originated in Tunisia, and there are wars in Afghanistan, Libya and Bagdhad. And Russia will be headline news no matter what they do, if Putin farts we know about it... Which only leaves the attack in Anarka. And I'm pretty sure I remember headline news for that attack.
It doesn't make any attack anymore or less significant. Just an observation.
on 25-03-2016 09:20 AM
@*julia*2010 wrote:
paris is popular, that was probably
why facebook had the french flag
filter for profile photos. no such
facebook option is available for belgian
flag. no australian landmarks lighting
up in belgian colours, unless i missed
it?
Not quite correct. My FB profile pic currently has a Belgian flag overlay. It's not offered on FB as such, but it wasn't hard to find.
on 25-03-2016 11:20 AM
@donnashuggy wrote:History proves that humans are not great, hopefully all these events will bring people together, we have wealth, education etc to make the planet better.
Unfortunately, I do not share your optimism. It only takes a small minority to mess things up. All it takes sensation seeking film crew to whip up fear of people because of their skin colour or religion. The fascists in Europe are using migrants for their own purposes = getting in power.
The reason the extreme right is getting traction is because they managed to scare people. Just as German people in 1930s were scared into going to war. Some still believe that Germany did not start the war; I met few years ago old German gentleman who was absolutely sure that Poland attacked Germany. He was a soldier who was sent to Poland, and although he admitted that at the point they crossed into Poland there were no Polish troops on German soil, he firmly believed that "only 50km away they were".
We may think that would not happen nowadays, with everybody having cameras and phones to take videos of what is happening. It is very easy to show a footage or photo, and make a totally false explanation, and people believe it.
on 25-03-2016 11:58 AM
@lurker172602 wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
paris is popular, that was probably
why facebook had the french flag
filter for profile photos. no such
facebook option is available for belgian
flag. no australian landmarks lighting
up in belgian colours, unless i missed
it?
Not quite correct. My FB profile pic currently has a Belgian flag overlay. It's not offered on FB as such, but it wasn't hard to find.
wasn't that what i said?
there is no facebook app (option)
for the belgian flag like it was for
paris and same sex marriage, but yes,
you're right, it can be done via
'rainbow filter' website for anyone
who is interested. you can do it
yourself as well. its easy enough.
on 25-03-2016 12:29 PM
The reason the extreme right is getting traction is because they managed to scare people.
i think it is much more complex than you think
in the cases of eastern european countries where
the opposition to refugees appears to be strong.
they don't need to be scared by the extreme right,
it goes much deeper than that.
i was reading d massey's on space and
thought this was very interesting:
"The upheavals in 1989 in various parts of old communist Europe, brought resurgence on a new scale and with a new intensity of nationalisms and territorial parochialisms, characterised by claims to exclusivity by assertions of the home-grown rooted authenticity of local specificity and by hostility to at least some designated others."
on 25-03-2016 12:49 PM
@bsal6160 wrote:And what of all the israeli's who have been killed by Hamus? Dont forget that as well. And dont forget to mention that Palestine is still not recognised as country.
I assume you mean Palestine is not recognised as a state.
Well, actually, while Israel does not recognise Palestine as a state and maintains de facto military control in all the territories. As of 14 September 2015, 136 (70.5%) of the 193 member states of the United Nations and two non-member states have recognised the State of Palestine.
While Israel keeps building new illegal settlements on land confiscated from Palestinians, while they deny human rights to Palestinians, while they allow anybody who claims to have at least one Jewish grandparent, to come to Israel and displace more Palestinians, I am afraid I do not have much sympathy for Israelis. And before anybody calls me antisemite; my family has number of jewish people, as over the generations various relatives married Jews. As far as I know none supports Israel. Even in Israel there are many people who do not support the illegal settlements. But there is a small minority, who want to take over not just whole Palestine, but also parts of Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan. Just google Eretz Israel HaShlema / Greater Israel. Interesting that part of that territory is being de-populated now as we speak.
on 25-03-2016 12:51 PM
saw this on the news;
thought you might be interested
Former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic has been sentenced to 40 years in jail after being found guilty of genocide for the 1995 Srebrenica massacre and of nine other war crimes charges.
The judges said Karadzic was criminally responsible for the siege of Sarajevo and committed crimes against humanity in Bosnian towns.
They found he intended to eliminate the Bosnian Muslim males of Srebrenica, where 8000 Muslims died in Europe's worst war crime since World War II.
on 25-03-2016 01:16 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:"The upheavals in 1989 in various parts of old communist Europe, brought resurgence on a new scale and with a new intensity of nationalisms and territorial parochialisms, characterised by claims to exclusivity by assertions of the home-grown rooted authenticity of local specificity and by hostility to at least some designated others."
Yes, i was actually in Europe 1991- 1993. In that time the "designated others" in the center of Europe ex-soviet block countries, were mostly the gypsies. I spoke to educated people, most with doctorate in philosophy, you could say those countries intelligentsia, and I asked them what should/could by done about the "gypsy problem", in private most said without hesitation "exterminate". Only one person that I spoke to said that they should be sent back to India, where they all came from 400 years ago. LOL
Over the years, judging from what my "friends" would post on facebook, anti gypsy rhetoric escalated. In mainstream media they were described as subhuman and in one article it was suggested that unless they are "removed" they will pollute their gene pool.
Now, all that hatred is being redirected at the refugees. And while they keep justifying it by quoting, selectively and out of context, from Quran, what really matters to them is their darker skin.
on 25-03-2016 01:27 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:Former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic has been sentenced to 40 years in jail after being found guilty of genocide for the 1995 Srebrenica massacre and of nine other war crimes charges.
Yes, I did hear it on news today and they did mention that the slaughtered people were Muslims. However, I am not sure if in the time it was happening it was being described as Christian majority trying to wipe out Muslims. But people in Islamic countries certainly took it as yet another attack of Christians on Muslims. I have even heard it described as playing large role in Muslim people living in western countries being radicalised in 1990s.
on 25-03-2016 01:48 PM
so as you can see, in a lot of
cases its not the far right/neo nazis
who are responsible for people's attitudes
towards refugees, yet you seem to be
continually suggesting it.
out of curiosity -
when and where was the last time you heard
the term "gypped" ?