Diary of our stinking Govt.

As it's more than 100 days now, it has been suggested that a new thread was needed.  The current govt has been breaking promises and telling lies at a rate so fast it's hard to keep up.Woman Happy

 

This below is worrying, "independent" pffft, as if your own doctor is somehow what? biased, it's ridiculous. So far there is talk of only including people under a certain age 30-35, for now. Remember that if your injured in a car, injured at work or get ill, you too might need to go on the DSP. They have done a similar think in the UK with devastating consequences.

 

and this is the 2nd time recently where the Govt has referred to work as welfare???? So when you go to work tomorrow (or tuesday), just remember that's welfare.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-20/disability-pensioners-may-be-reassessed-kevin-andrews/5400598

 

Independent doctors could be called in to reassess disability pensioners, Federal Government says

 

The Federal Government is considering using independent doctors to examine disability pensioners and assess whether they should continue to receive payments.

 

Currently family doctors provide reports supporting claims for the Disability Support Pension (DSP).

But Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews is considering a measure that would see independent doctors reassess eligibility.

 

"We are concerned that where people can work, the best form of welfare is work," Mr Andrews said at a press conference.

 

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@monman12 wrote:

  remember these memorable other interviews from "7.30" that have "been mentioned here over a "long time" :

 

With Poor Me.

 

 

Another with Rudd

 

 


Brilliant work, MM12. You've clearly highlighted the ABC's anti-Labor bias. Tony needs to see these - maybe he'll give them their $360,000,000 back.

 

Only the questions have been quoted, whereas in the recent interview it was all about the (non-) answers - Abbott's deer in the headlights expression and his repetitive, off-topic responses.

 

 

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spot on Cros! 

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"why don't you post something worth comment yourself instead of deriding what i post?

I mentioned the interview twice myself,"      twice?

 

"raised" 5 times since Wed". OK I should have said.........content covered perhaps?  interview alluded to?, and 6 times, not 5.

 

14424 OMG interesting interview on the 7.30 report tonight... certainly has people talking

14439 Yes, we watched it Myo and thought it was bizarre, won't say too much about it here though because, you know

14441 It was just totally weird!

14444 Prime Minister Tony Abbott has called on the ABC to talk up the economy, and sidestepped questions on key economic indicators by citing the Government's record on stopping the boats.

14446 hope you watched that abbott 7.30 report interview, it was very revealing

14448 that 7.30 report interview was memorable, no doubt it will be mentioned for a long time to come yet

 

I do not see pointing out/countering one's  political myopia/views as deriding,  that could be reserved for posts or definitive statements  that are easily proved to be incorrect or unresearched.  However I prefer in those cases to present factual responses that show an argument's fallibility, and I have a lot of  practice herein.

 

I would if I was going to deride , rather than debate (argue) a comment, chose something like this:

"Really it's the job of the journo to research what they're putting to print, that responsibility doesn't lie with people reposting their articles on a chat board"

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Yep, just as I said, I mentioned on the night of the interview and today when  There was an article about it. The other Posts are responses.  But my point is so what? What does it matter to you what I post or how many times?

 

as Cros has already mentioned   ( and you have just shown)  Leigh sales has done some pretty tough interviews with all politicians from both sides, which proves the ABC is not biased, but never before have I seen so much interference from govt. In media

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Btw,  I 'm just going to continue posting, no matter what 🙂

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I do not see pointing out/countering one's  political myopia/views as deriding,  that could be reserved for posts or definitive statements  that are easily proved to be incorrect or unresearched.  However I prefer in those cases to present factual responses that show an argument's fallibility, and I have a lot of  practice herein.

 

I would if I was going to deride , rather than debate (argue) a comment, chose something like this:

"Really it's the job of the journo to research what they're putting to print, that responsibility doesn't lie with people reposting their articles on a chat board"

Myopic Tongues2 Small.jpg

 

 

 


As I've  said before I have voted for both parties however I  have never hidden the fact that I  don't like the abbott  govt. And I think they are  a joke ( I am not alone in this) so,why appoint yourself to the job of " countering" me?

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Tony Abbott hits phones as leadership talk heats up


 

Tony Abbott is fighting to protect his leadership against a fresh coup that is brewing from within his frontbench.

Multiple sources have told AFR Weekend that the plan is to mount another leadership challenge regardless of the outcome of next week's by-election in the Western Australian seat of Canning.

 

Malcolm Turnbull is, at the moment, the likely leadership rival should there be a push, while Julie Bishop would stay as deputy. Some members of the Right, who could not previously abide Mr Turnbull, confided that they could now vote for him.

"There's no alternative," said a source.

 

Social Services Minister Scott Morrison is said to be sticking by Mr Abbott but would benefit from a change, most likely by becoming Treasurer.

 

"Everything changes if the top changes," said one powerbroker. He added that the move this time was "not about Mr Morrison" insofar as he was not being lined up for a leadership role.

Mr Abbott publicly confronted the issue on Friday after  The Daily Telegraph reported he was under pressure to bring forward a reshuffle of his ministry, scheduled for Christmas, to head off the push.

 

The publication of a list of ministers supposedly to be targeted for demotion sparked an internal round of hostilities and finger-pointing as to who was behind it.

 

Mr Abbott rang ministers on the hit list, including one of his top performers Trade Minister Andrew Robb, to assure them the list did not come from the Prime Minister or his office. Some ministers rang Mr Abbott or his office first to seek clarification. 

 

Others on the list like Eric Abetz and Kevin Andrews are part of Mr Abbott's Praetorian Guard and are protecting the PM. 

One minister called the list published in The Daily Telegraph "the most Machiavellian act ever perpetrated".

"This is a **bleep** of an act. We've had the best week we've had all year," he said, in reference to the well received decision to accept 12,000 Syrian refugees.

 

Mr Abbott, who heads to the Western Australian seat of Canning this weekend to campaign ahead of next Saturday's critical by-election, said the report was "wrong".

 

"Reports of end-of-year reshuffles are absolutely a dime a dozen," he said.

Mr Abbott is believed to still have the numbers to protect him against a challenge but one MP keen on a change said "things are moving pretty fast".

Another said there was definitely movement but little co-ordination and he feared the renewed unrest could be devastating for the government in Canning.

 

"There's a lot of chatter among the frontbench but it's not clear where this is landing.

"That's the worst of both worlds. The government suffers from the chatter."

 

The government suffered a modest setback in Canning on Friday when the Liberal Democratic Party, led by Senator David Leyonhjelm, announced it would direct its preferences away from the Liberal Party in response to an ongoing legal dispute with the Liberals and to protest some policy decisions.

The government is expecting a strong swing against it in Canning and Mr Abbott is conscious he needs a respectable result to keep the wolves at bay. One theory circulating on Friday was that the reshuffle story had been leaked to blow up the government in Canning and ensure Mr Abbott's ouster. 

 

Treasurer Joe Hockey was drawn into the firing line when 2GB radio host Ray Hadley, a supporter of the government and who has a good relationship with Mr Morrison, suggested to Mr Hockey during a live interview that he should resign for the good of the government and Mr Abbott.

 

"If [Mr Abbott] says, 'Look, Joe we're moving into election cycle, it's next year and you're one of my best mates, you're a great bloke, I think you're a great Treasurer, but we just might have to move things, we might have to put you somewhere else', would you take one for the team without bluing or screaming?"

Mr Hockey dismissed the suggestion.  

 

The government's day further soured when Mr Abbott and Mr Dutton, while posing for a photo opportunity, were caught on camera joking about the effect of climate change swamping Pacific islands. Mr Morrison, standing beside them, warned them about the boom microphone overhead as Mr Abbott and Mr Dutton chuckled at the joke.

In February, Mr Abbott survived a motion to spill the leadership by 61 votes to 39. After what he described as that near-death experience, he asked his team to give him six months to turn the ship around. 

But despite a brief surge in the wake of the May budget, the government has been pretty much lagging Labor by 54 per cent to 46 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis.

One frontbencher told AFR Weekend that he believed it was a matter of if, not when, the leadership would again be confronted.

 

"It's like the election," he said. "There will be one, we just don't know when."

Labor privately fears a switch to Mr Turnbull with Mr Morrison as Treasurer, believing they would be much harder to beat. 

 
 
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Well I don't know, I hope this is all true.  I think Labor should also have a good think about who they want representing them.  Clean slate all round and things might get much better for all.

 

 




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joono, there've been rumblings about this all day, and all day abbott has been denying it

 

here's an article tonight with more on it

 

http://www.afr.com/news/politics/abbott-fights-off-new-challenge-20150910-gjk33y?stb=twt

 

Tony Abbott is fighting to protect his leadership against a fresh coup that is brewing from within his frontbench.

 

Multiple sources have told AFR Weekend that the plan is to mount another leadership challenge regardless of the outcome of next week's by-election in the Western Australian seat of Canning.

 

Malcolm Turnbull is, at the moment, the likely leadership rival should there be a push, while Julie Bishop would stay as deputy.

 

Some members of the Right, who could not previously abide Mr Turnbull, confided that they could now vote for him.

"There's no alternative," said a source.

 

 

 

 

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-11/abbott-moves-to-defuse-reshuffle-hand-grenade/6767388

 

The story by Simon Benson and Daniel Meers in Sydney's Daily Telegraph included a list of six ministers — including Kevin Andrews, Eric Abetz and Ian Macfarlane — set to lose their jobs, and the names of likely replacements.

The report carries weight because the paper is known by Coalition MPs as the "Government Gazette".

 

 

how odd that it was The Daily Telegraph that stirred up all this trouble for the govt.

 

 

below is a comment from under the article that gave me a bit of a chuckle

 

 

This is delicious. The Daily Telegraph breaks this latest debacle yet it's Fairfax and the ABC who are running a "jihad" against the Government. Couldn't help but notice that Dutton has been shown up as clueless yet again today. If anyone is deserving of losing his portfolio, it's him

 

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@debra9275 wrote:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-11/abbott-moves-to-defuse-reshuffle-hand-grenade/6767388

 

The story by Simon Benson and Daniel Meers in Sydney's Daily Telegraph included a list of six ministers — including Kevin Andrews, Eric Abetz and Ian Macfarlane — set to lose their jobs, and the names of likely replacements.

The report carries weight because the paper is known by Coalition MPs as the "Government Gazette".

 

 

how odd that it was The Daily Telegraph that stirred up all this trouble for the govt.

 

 

below is a comment from under the article that gave me a bit of a chuckle

 

 

This is delicious. The Daily Telegraph breaks this latest debacle yet it's Fairfax and the ABC who are running a "jihad" against the Government. Couldn't help but notice that Dutton has been shown up as clueless yet again today. If anyone is deserving of losing his portfolio, it's him

 



how odd that it was The Daily Telegraph that stirred up all this trouble for the govt.

 

Not really odd, hasn't  Uncle Rupert "suggested" to Toxic Tony that he wants an election  NOW!

 

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