Do you have a tattoo, your a criminal in QLD

[the_hawk*]

Over-the-top bikie laws make ‘criminals’ of anyone with tattoo

http://www.cla.asn.au/News/bikie-laws-criminalise-innocents-in-qld/

[azureline**]

Hawk, please stop telling me what to do.

[the_hawk*]

sounds more like a protest by ordinary people who understand the laws are wrong

[the_hawk*]

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@azureline** wrote:

Hawk, please stop telling me what to do.

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lol

[lind9650]

Well, I better pack all long sleeved shirts for Peter before we go up to Quld. for the winter again. No short sleeves like last year. LOL, he has tattoos on both his arms. Never rode a motorbike in his life, but tattoos were the in thing when he was a young lad about 60 years ago.

I am the one that rode motorbikes in my youth, but I have no tatts on me.

Funny way of making laws.

Erica

[azureline**]

are they bikie club tatts?

I am fairly certain no one will be arresting my daughter and her OH for their matching tatts, nor my DIL's for butterflys or dragonflies.

My son has his daughter's name on his arm and a lion on his shoulder. I think they are safe enough.

[the_hawk*]

As to be expected when 90% plus of police focus on the .4% of crime bikies commit the majority of criminals thrive.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-24/criminologist-says-gold-coast-crime-up-since-bikies-blitz/5278...

[lakeland27]

My dad had one tattoo. it was on his forearm and had an anchor and 'Glenelg' underneath. end of season football trip for glenelg players he said. it was barely visisble. i havent any. i've never been enthusiastic enough about anything in a permanent way.

[the_hawk*]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

My dad had one tattoo. it was on his forearm and had an anchor and 'Glenelg' underneath. end of season football trip for glenelg players he said. it was barely visisble. i havent any. i've never been enthusiastic enough about anything in a permanent way.

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Nor do I have any, but support the rights of those that chose to do so.

and further support those that chose to live differently provided they do so within the law as long as the law is equally applied to all without taking away people human rights.

[lakeland27]

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@the_hawk* wrote:

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@lakeland27 wrote:

My dad had one tattoo. it was on his forearm and had an anchor and 'Glenelg' underneath. end of season football trip for glenelg players he said. it was barely visisble. i havent any. i've never been enthusiastic enough about anything in a permanent way.

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Nor do I have any, but support the rights of those that chose to do so.

and further support those that chose to live differently provided they do so within the law as long as the law is equally applied to all without taking away people human rights.

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 yes so do i. i do have some reservations about  the outlaw clubs , but i find the association laws are far worse and the sentencing is over the top. newman is almost halfway out already, he and his cabal might have second thoughts or go, one of the two is likely unless he is more stupid than he looks. QLD had sufficient legislation in place already to deal with gangs.

 i used to ride a bike for many years, most of it was on the track or sundays up the lobethal road in the unofficial death race to norton summit. it was madness really the entire thing , but it seemed great at the time. someone used to drive a ute along behind to pick up the riders and bikes that were bent in the process .

[aftanas]

I am finding it difficult to understand how so many people can fail to see the value of the VLAD laws.  The beauty of VLAD is that can be used to target virtually anyone, not just people who ride motorcycles. There is a historical precedent here.

In 1933, after the Reichstag fire (started by a pyromaniac who also happened to a communist), Chancellor Hitler convinced President Hindenburg to exercise his emergency executive powers under section 48 of the Weimar Constitution to provide Hitler with the authority to suspend civil liberties and outlaw the Communist party in Germany.  This was very popular with most Germans as they did not believe Communists deserved to be protected under the law.  The only people who complained were the Communists and the intellectuals.  But these same powers ceded to Hitler by Hindenburg allowed the Nazis to outlaw the Social Democrats (that pesky centre left party) and then all the other right wing political parties in Germany.  This was greatly advantageous, not only to Hitler, but to all right thinking Germans.  Further, by virtue of these powers wrong thinking Germans - that is, persons caught criticising the Government or telling political jokes - could be convicted in a special People's Court (as the normal Courts had an annoying tendency to apply the rule of law when trying cases).  This weeding out of the unsound elements strengthened the German population such that it had the will to prosecute its foreign policy goals in Europe, North Africa and the USSR.  Such national heroism would not have been possible in the absence of a cleansing of the German citizenry.

So I don't know how some people on this forum can be so blind as to criticise the VLAD laws.  Do they not understand that these laws represent the Governments will.  Could it be that they don't believe right thinking Queenslanders deserve to be protected from people who hold differing views.  Do they believe that every person has value, even people with tattoos.  Do they believe that our Christian values should be subordinated to some kind of devil spawned secular ideology, where persons who are not me deserve to have their views heard and respectufully considered. Do they not want Queensland to be great.

Think about this before you express views about the anti motor cycle riders laws.