on 08-01-2014 06:32 PM
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Do you object to BAG INSPECTIONS at stores?
Do you object to staff asking to inspect your bag? (they are only doing their job)
Will you shop at a store that asks to inspect your bag or will you go elsewhere?
Do bag inspections and security checks help to stop shop lifting and keep prices down?
If you object WHY?
Do you think that objecting to a bag inspection makes a person look guilty or they are guilty?
Rememer that its a condition of entry at just about every major /medium/small store in Australia
11-01-2014 10:06 PM - edited 11-01-2014 10:10 PM
No sign at point of entry, no bag check. It is a code, and if the retailer expects the customer to comply, then they must also comply with it.
Legal Position
In order to carry out a bag check, a retailer must notify the customer, through the display of signage at the point of entry to the store of its intention to do so.
If other conditions apply these should also be covered in the notice.
A customer, upon entering a store with a sign displaying the retailers intention to check bags, accepts that condition of entry.
Agreed Principles
Signage establishing entry conditions should be prominently displayed at entrances to stores, be written in simple language and should indicate:
- that agreeing to checks is a condition of entry; and
- that checks are done on bags, parcels, cartons and containers.
Supplementary signage should indicate the shopkeeper's commitment to the Bagcheck Guidelines particularly in regard to the checking of personal handbags.
The Bagcheck Guidelines Summary Statement will be incorporated into any literature that the store manager provides to customers on receipt of enquiries.
Australian Retailers Association
The Office of Fair Trading will endeavour to resolve any issues and any complaints arising from consumers who feel that
the Bagcheck Guidelines have been breached.
on 11-01-2014 10:15 PM
I just tried to buy an ordinary run of the mill sticky tape holder thingy.
I found one for $1,500.
I was outraged by that.
It wasn't even red.
on 11-01-2014 10:17 PM
@am*3 wrote:No sign at point of entry, no bag check. It is a code, and if the retailer expects the customer to comply, then they must also comply with it.
Legal Position
In order to carry out a bag check, a retailer must notify the customer, through the display of signage at the point of entry to the store of its intention to do so.
If other conditions apply these should also be covered in the notice.
A customer, upon entering a store with a sign displaying the retailers intention to check bags, accepts that condition of entry.
Agreed Principles
Signage establishing entry conditions should be prominently displayed at entrances to stores, be written in simple language and should indicate:
- that agreeing to checks is a condition of entry; and
- that checks are done on bags, parcels, cartons and containers.
Supplementary signage should indicate the shopkeeper's commitment to the Bagcheck Guidelines particularly in regard to the checking of personal handbags.
The Bagcheck Guidelines Summary Statement will be incorporated into any literature that the store manager provides to customers on receipt of enquiries.
Australian Retailers Association
The Office of Fair Trading will endeavour to resolve any issues and any complaints arising from consumers who feel that
the Bagcheck Guidelines have been breached.
how about conditions of sale?
11-01-2014 10:18 PM - edited 11-01-2014 10:20 PM
Why would they apply if you never bought anything in the store.. just looked around and went out?
There is no point in overthinking the bag check policy. Most customers haven't studied law or have a law degree.
on 11-01-2014 10:19 PM
Same?
on 12-01-2014 01:48 PM
I object.
I once had some bufoon rifle through my (largish) handbag as I was leaving a store. He asked to check my bag. I agreed. But I didn't expect him to go through it so thoroughly.
Now I refuse. It's rare but occasionally I will have someone asking me as I leave their store if they can check my bag. I say "no" and keep walking. No one has ever challenged me.
on 12-01-2014 02:04 PM
I went to woollies this morning and had to look very hard to find the A4 sized notice, I read it on exit, the way I understood it is that unless you have read it and know it they do bag checks you have accepted the stores right to ask, that doesn't mean they can.
In fact the notice was more to do with customers rights to refuse.
on 12-01-2014 02:21 PM
I have nothing more to say
on 12-01-2014 05:56 PM
on 12-01-2014 06:02 PM
The bag I use most often is quite small (smaller than an A4 piece of paper) so I don't get asked to show my bag, sometimes I'll do it anyway on the way out but I usually get waved through.. I don't know what some people are keeping in their bags that is so private or why they think anyone doing a bag check would care what's in there. The most I can fit in my bag is my phone, wallet, iPod, coin purse and a couple of pens; when I go shopping I actually consider that I might be browsing the shops and leave anything out that might be considered private..
Bag checking is not a law, but if a store has a policy that your bag will be checked as a condition of entry (which you agreed to when you walked in) rather than making a song and dance about your rights to refuse a bag check, you could just take 30 seconds and show them your bag. If your handbag is only a small bag then you don't have to show them but I"ve seen a lot of bags being carried around that resemble an overnight bag..
As for the security tags, I still remember when they had those ones where dye would leak out if you tried to removed them. I'm not sure how they thought those would be a good way to prevent stock loss because the clothes ended up ruined anyway. If they didn't get ruined by the dye, then they had holes in them from people trying to remove them, so I'm pretty sure that these two reasons are why they decided against tagging everything. On top of that, you'd have to make sure that ever register had the machine to remove them which is not always feasible or possible..
Would you rather get your bag checked like everyone else just in case someone might steal something, or would you rather get randomly targeted for a bomb search at the airport because you look suspicious? This actually happens to a friend of mine quite often.. Her sister thinks it's hilarious, my friend not so much