Eden-Monaro by-election

[davidc4430]

Eden-Monaro by-election results show narrow lead for Labor as Nationals concede

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-04/eden-monaro-by-election-results-for-labor-and-liberal-candida...

leys makes a point but its countered by the point the libs do the same thing when it suits them

so dont come the 'we are pure while your the bad eggs' when both parties play the same tactics

[debra9275]

you do realize don't you chameleon that skynews is under the umbrella of news.com (newscorp)  

Antony Green is always spot on though

[freddie*rooster]

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@chameleon54 wrote:

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@freddie*rooster wrote:

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@chameleon54 wrote:

With around 2/3 of the vote counted, Labors first preference vote down around 3.4% Liberals first preference vote up by around 1.5%.

If the bellwether characteristics of the seat continue until the next Federal election, it would be a landslide win for the Liberals and huge rejection for Anthony Albanase who has been personally campaigning hard in the electorate.. 

Albo's a nice enough bloke, but he's never going to be Prime Minister material. No doubt the shadow men who run the Labor party will be crunching the numbers and checking the cutlery drawer as we speak..

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Albo was there to support his colleague where was scomo? Still hiding under the bed after his fake forced

hand shaking back patting I care stroll during the fires. Still not wanted by the looks of his no show to support

his colleague. 

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And the result is ? ? ?

Liberals up 1.5%, Labor down 2.2 % on latest count.............

So your point is ............????

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My point is fake scotty didn't receive the invitation to support his colleauge.

He wasn't wanted anywhere near the Eden-Monaro by election. 

[davidc4430]

i love the arguing here

if it was the AFL grand final and the winning team won by a point

there would be an argument about a goal from a free kick

but once the dust has settled

it makes no difference

IF labor wins the seat, how they did it or by how many votes will not matter

the same goes for the lib/nats

running around afterwards pointing at this that or another in the lead up to the vote wont change the result

what i found interesting was a statement from the PM

'we need the lib candidate to win so we can get on with the job of making this seat (area) good again after the devistating fires'

so i'm taking it that IF labor win the area will NOT get federal help?

pork barreling?

[chameleon54]

@ David, I agree with you. In politics the winner takes it all and the losers spend the next four years sooking on the sidelines.

The reason for all of the interest in this particular by election is that over the years it has been a very good barometer of the wider electoral heartbeat as well as being an indicator to the voters response to the recent LNP. bungled bushfire efforts..

The results of this election clearly show that the Liberals, despite the bushfire issue have improved their position and Labor has gone backwards quite significantly, only winning due to preference deals with the Farmers Fishers and Shooters party. ( what a strange alliance with the devil that one is ). The election has long been touted as a litmus test of voter support for Anthony Albanase and his policy agenda post the unlosable federal election loss. 

The voters have spoken and Albo and his policies are on the nose. The Titanic needs to turn sharply and quickly or it will smash into another ice berg in a couple of years time. Their best hope is to replace the bumbling ships captain with some-one more suitable. ( and yes they have several options )

Watching Labor at the moment is like watching a slow motion train wreck !

[davidc4430]

lets wind the tape back a few months

just before the country got itself the flu of a century we had the lib/nats fighting fires both real and not so real

they screwed up the bushfire response

then there was the sports rorts saga

so they were on the nose big time

along comes the virus

and they get a free pass to blow the promised surplus and start spending like no lib/nat party has ever done

of course they have improved their position

but we just had a bye election, not a federal election

the money tree will stop producing soon and the govt will be back on the nose i suspect

plus we the people will have to start paying for all that spending

[ambercat16]

I'm not so sure that Albo's perceived deficiencies are to blame.  I wonder if the people in the electorate were swayed by their desperate need for the money promised by the Coalition after the bush fires which has not yet eventuated.  Could they have worried that if they voted Labor they would never see that money? Why wasn't the money available months ago when it was promised?

[lyhargr_0]

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@ambercat16 wrote:

I'm not so sure that Albo's perceived deficiencies are to blame.  I wonder if the people in the electorate were swayed by their desperate need for the money promised by the Coalition after the bush fires which has not yet eventuated.  Could they have worried that if they voted Labor they would never see that money? Why wasn't the money available months ago when it was promised?

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Look at the party who promised it and you will have  your answer

[domino-710]

Given - no-one has received - it beats imagination why people donate to try to help.

[lyhargr_0]

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@lyhargr_0 wrote:

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@ambercat16 wrote:

I'm not so sure that Albo's perceived deficiencies are to blame.  I wonder if the people in the electorate were swayed by their desperate need for the money promised by the Coalition after the bush fires which has not yet eventuated.  Could they have worried that if they voted Labor they would never see that money? Why wasn't the money available months ago when it was promised?

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Look at the party who promised it and you will have  your answer

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Morrison would NOT give you the time of day unless there was something in it for him

[chameleon54]

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@ambercat16 wrote:

I'm not so sure that Albo's perceived deficiencies are to blame.  I wonder if the people in the electorate were swayed by their desperate need for the money promised by the Coalition after the bush fires which has not yet eventuated.  Could they have worried that if they voted Labor they would never see that money? Why wasn't the money available months ago when it was promised?

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Any reasonable person would see that as a giant zero for the LNP rather than a big tick.

Despite the bushfire mess, the LNP increased its standing in the electorate and Labor under Albo's constant campaigning in the seat lost a lot of ground. You can make all of the weak excuses you like, but the facts are clear. Labor has not made the changes necessary after its shock federal election loss and despite all of the LNP bushfire failings, the voters still prefer SCOMO and the LNP to Albo and the ALP.

The ALP wont be able to rely on the shooters and fishers preferences to get them over the line at a national level, so they need to make some drastic changes now while there is still time if they want to have any chance at the next Federal election. The first change needs to be to get rid of Albo and install a leader with the skills and support to lead Labor out of their wandering wilderness.