Equlity. Good thing or not?

[poddster]

This is a simple poll (or is it );-)B-)]:)

The question is:-

Should all people be equal?

Give ita bit of thought before you answer.

If you answer Yes

Why did you answer in the affirmative?

Describe the :"equal" person that everyone should modeled on

If you answer No

Why did you answer in he negative?

[*crikey*mate*]

Excuse me Iza,

I have answered many questions that you have asked me, yet you seem to be avoiding the only question I have asked you.

I asked you, to which theory/theorist of Feminism do you ascribe, as you assured me a long way back now that you knew what Feminism was etc, and I was just interested in understanding your interpretation of it so that I may be able to make sense of some of your posts.

P.S. - It's time to let the BMW thing go - it was in response to another poster on another thread - I never bought it into that thread or this thread. So, put the stick down - the horse is dead.

[lakeland27]

you made a lot more sense when you kept the conversation between 2 ids you operated. back when you mostly spoke to yourself 🙂 a bit like this thread but slightly more unusual.

[lakeland27]

and the old method of logging in and out of different ID's to manipulate the poll is a classic 😛

[jethro_woolfe]

like this. 🙂

[*crikey*mate*]

because those that want to reach their full potential, but can't be bothered to even try or don't possess the potential that they desire will always try and bring the other down to their level rather than aspire to realize/find their own true potential.

I look to Salieri and Motzart as an example of that, as well as the Tonya Harding debacle and many more everyday examples from taxation to achievment in school.

Not every individual has the same attitude towards opportunity and many would rather complain about having none than doing something about finding one.

Whether or not this is true, it has absolutely nothing to do with the concept of giving everyone an equal opportunity to reach their individual potential. What people do with the opportunities they are given is a completely separate argument.

(Only the bolded part is She-Ele's - the rest is mine)

She Ele - I have been thinking about this since you posted it.

To me, they're not seperate arguments. I don't believe that I should be equal to someone who, "given" the same opportunities as myself, does more with those opportunities. I believe that if they work harder, make more sacrifices, or just in general do more than I did - than whilst I may Covet what they have - I simply could never begrudge them of that.

The concept of everyone having equal opportunities - are we talking about on a global scale or a localized scale?

On a global, social level - I do believe that all people have equal worth and value - (though I'm not sure I'm generous enough to extend that to pedophiles and other people who commit serious crimes against society on purpose etc - I need to think about that more and evaluate my own intrapersonal values on that one - cos academically, I know that their crimes usually are as a result of the biological/mental predisposition - it's how they were born iykwim, and they can't necessarily control what they do iykwim)

From an economic and academic viewpoint - I just don't believe that equality "should" exist - call me an ascriber to Functionalism if you like, but on a localized level I believe in a meritocratic system where those who make the effort reap the rewards.

Trying not to write a scroller here, but on a global economic platform, there are so many differing external influences from type of government or socioculture influence to type of climate that dictate what opportunities are available to a person that I just can't see how we can compare them and thus determine equality.

[*crikey*mate*]

you made a lot more sense when you kept the conversation between 2 ids you operated. back when you mostly spoke to yourself 🙂 a bit like this thread but slightly more unusual.

are you referring to me?

[*crikey*mate*]

and the old method of logging in and out of different ID's to manipulate the poll is a classic 😛

are you referring to me?

[lakeland27]

no , i was just thinking aloud . please continue 🙂

[izabsmiling]

From an economic and academic viewpoint - I just don't believe that equality "should" exist - call me an ascriber to Functionalism if you like, but on a localized level I believe in a meritocratic system where those who make the effort reap the rewards.

Do you not think it right that all children have an equal opportunity to have an education ...regardless of their gender, religion, physical/intellectual ability ? 

Going by your  logic that equality would involve holding some people back from achieving who has suffered as a result of girls being able to stay in school longer and all children having the opportunity and the right to an education ? In this country that equal opportunity has existed for some time. Hasn't that benefited more people rather than disadvantaged the advantaged ? 

Has giving more children the opportunity somehow taken some mind of 'imagined' superiority away from some people ?

[izabsmiling]

some mind = some kind