Evolution Fraud and Myths

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Catastrophic flooding=climate change.Nothing to do with a deity. Science at work. 🙂
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ele - I had no idea that so many of those finds had been proven FAKES. It makes me think just how many others would be proven to be fakes if they were tested.

 

I'm not talking dinosaurs etc - I know they existed. I also know that some have been assembled wrongly and only lately have been assembled the right way.

 

I am talking about the various xxxx.man. How many of those have been compiled and manipulated by their finders. It seems like the various discoverers were trying to outdo each other and were prepared to do anything to win. 

 

 

 

 

 

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@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
Catastrophic flooding=climate change.Nothing to do with a deity. Science at work. 🙂

shark fossily at the top of mountains?Bit more than a catastrophic flood.

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

it seems that there is PLENTY of factual evidence if you bothered to read those links - evidence of FRAUDULENT claims which have since been exposed as just that - FRAUDS. Composite Fossils -   Piltdown man, Nebraska man, Java Man, Orc Man, Neanderthal Man, Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis: Fake Dinosaur-bird ancestor.

 

And if you were to read the records from mental hospitals you would find plenty of people claiming to be Jesus, - should we use this "evidence" to prove God doesn't exist?


Hi ele. Are you saying that these were not fakes?


 Science is not static, new discoveries are made, and past mistakes are corrected.  And yes, there were some hoaxes, but mostly they are just wrong conclusions.  When mistake is made with one fossil, it does not mean that all past discoveries are wrong, and mistake is not fraud.
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Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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Charles Darwin.One of the greatest minds ever.Unlike Jesus who was just a tradie. 🙂
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@***super_nova*** wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

it seems that there is PLENTY of factual evidence if you bothered to read those links - evidence of FRAUDULENT claims which have since been exposed as just that - FRAUDS. Composite Fossils -   Piltdown man, Nebraska man, Java Man, Orc Man, Neanderthal Man, Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis: Fake Dinosaur-bird ancestor.

 

And if you were to read the records from mental hospitals you would find plenty of people claiming to be Jesus, - should we use this "evidence" to prove God doesn't exist?


Hi ele. Are you saying that these were not fakes?


 Science is not static, new discoveries are made, and past mistakes are corrected.  And yes, there were some hoaxes, but mostly they are just wrong conclusions.  When mistake is made with one fossil, it does not mean that all past discoveries are wrong, and mistake is not fraud.

some of those weren't mistakes - they were intentionally fraudulent - dyed bones etc to make them appear older. Parts discovered miles away and incorporated into the one composite skeleton.

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

ele - I had no idea that so many of those finds had been proven FAKES. It makes me think just how many others would be proven to be fakes if they were tested.

 

I'm not talking dinosaurs etc - I know they existed. I also know that some have been assembled wrongly and only lately have been assembled the right way.

 

I am talking about the various xxxx.man. How many of those have been compiled and manipulated by their finders. It seems like the various discoverers were trying to outdo each other and were prepared to do anything to win. 

 

 

 

 

 


Rabbit,wherever there is maney to be made from fakes there will be people ready to make them. Last time I was in Paris I walked the length of the Champs Elyssees. Every 20 metres or so there was another little man sitting in front of a blanket on which were laid out for sale dozens of fakeLouis Vuitton bags. Am I to conclude from this that there is no such firm as Louis Vuiton and  no such thing as thing as a genuine Louis Vuiton bag

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

ele - I had no idea that so many of those finds had been proven FAKES. It makes me think just how many others would be proven to be fakes if they were tested.

 

I'm not talking dinosaurs etc - I know they existed. I also know that some have been assembled wrongly and only lately have been assembled the right way.

 

I am talking about the various xxxx.man. How many of those have been compiled and manipulated by their finders. It seems like the various discoverers were trying to outdo each other and were prepared to do anything to win. 

 

 

 

 

 


Rabbit,wherever there is maney to be made from fakes there will be people ready to make them. Last time I was in Paris I walked the length of the Champs Elyssees. Every 20 metres or so there was another little man sitting in front of a blanket on which were laid out for sale dozens of fakeLouis Vuitton bags. Am I to conclude from this that there is no such firm as Louis Vuiton and  no such thing as thing as a genuine Louis Vuiton bag


any luck finding that elusive fossil yet?

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Any photos of the ten commandments yet?
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And it does not matter to you that EVERY civilization had that story?EVERY ONE OF THEM?

 

 

According to recorded history there were six well-established cultures or ‘civilizations’ at the time of Noah’s Flood. They were: Mesopotamia (Sumerian), Indus Valley, Egypt, the Minoan, the ‘Holy Land’ area, and China. Archaeological records such as ruins of cities, tools, pottery, skeletal remains, weapons, and other artifacts support the written records that survive. These records all show that humans and civilizations existed in almost all parts of the world at the time of the flood, and that there was a worldwide population of possibly 100 million people.

The civilizations of the time were using Bronze tools and had the potters wheel, looms to made textiles, had invented the plow and domesticated draft animals, they also traded with peoples hundreds of miles away. In other words a cultural revolution was going on. Man was changing from herders and hunter-gatherers to settled agriculture and cities that could support the new technologies. An infrastructure was developing. The written record and Archaeology support this view. Records of the Sumerian/Mesopotamian civilization show a continuous ongoing culture from about 3350 BCE to a period well past the Noachian flood.

Mesopotamia had great prosperity and expansion during the flood period under Sargon the Great and his grandson Naram-Sin. The area was a thriving center of culture and advancing civilization. There is no evidence for a cataclysmic flood wiping out the entire culture and infrastructure.

Egyptian civilization is probably familiar to most of us. Egypt’s dynastic history started with the uniting of Upper and Lower Egypt by King Menes, around 3100 BCE. The Egyptian period known as the “Old Kingdom” lasted from 2800 to 2175 BCE. During this time many of the pyramids were built. There is no record, written or archaeological, for a monster flood destroying and completely interrupting this countries infrastructure or it’s monuments such as the Sphinx, the Step Pyramid, or the Great Pyramids, which were built before ‘The Flood’

China has a reasonably accurate history starting around 3000 BCE. According to texts from a Chinese book called “Shu King” and verified by archaeological records, China was undergoing a prosperous period around 2400 to 2200 BCE during the early Yaou Dynasty. They have no record of a cataclysmic flood interrupting their whole civilization and destroying the infrastructure of the country.

The Indus valley civilization has a well-known history dating back to perhaps 3100 BCE. By 2500 BCE there were two major cities, Mohendaro (or Mohenjo-Daro) and Harrapa, which rivaled Egypt and Mesopotamia in population and technologies. This great Civilization also encompassed maybe 100 smaller cities, towns, and villages, and didn’t fall until about 1500 BCE. They have no record of a worldwide civilization-destroying flood.

The Minoan civilization was probably as old as Egypt. Based on the Island of Crete, this civilization grew quickly and was highly advanced by 2500 BCE. By the middle of the second millennium it had an alphabet, used bronze tools, had pottery, textiles, advanced architecture, and had established cities around the Islands. It continued to grow and was a center for trade and culture until about the mid-1400’s BCE  when it was suddenly destroyed by the violent eruption of the Thera volcano. There has been no evidence unearthed from this civilization that shows a flood destroying their whole infrastructure, at any time in their existence.

We do not have any archaeological evidence from the Japanese culture, Native American culture, or the Black tribes of Africa that indicate a world wide flood at any time in their existence. Think about this. How could all these civilizations, tribes, and world-wide culture along with sooo many people suddenly disappear from the earth and then suddenly reappear all over the world and bring the same culture, arts, pottery design, architecture, writing, language, and artifacts that was unique to them and their part of the world?

The entire history of the world does not show…any…of the known civilizations to have a large gap in their chronology or technologies as a result of being destroyed by a worldwide flood. It is not plausible that they were destroyed, and within a few short years, reappeared in their original numbers and with the same abilities and infrastructure. All the inventions and culture of the people of the time…would have had to be reinvented by new inhabitants…that did not happen. It just didn’t happen people.

 

http://thewordofme.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/more-evidence-against-noahs-flood/

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